Might have been an ok full back, but he's not a list manager!
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Might have been an ok full back, but he's not a list manager!
HarryCurnow
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Sure thing buddy - so whats your criteria of a good list manager during a rebuild?
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Whose this senior body you keep mentioning?
I wouldn't have given Adelaide first bite of the cherry pie
I also wouldn't have recruited the second/third/fourth string players from the club I was previously employed at!
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Think we found SOS' BigFooty account.
HarryCurnow
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Thats for the recruitment team to decide, god knows we need one and a very good one at that.
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I wouldn't have given Adelaide first bite of the cherry pie
But they havent got it
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So Adelaide's first pick for this year, is the one you'll use on a mature age recruit?
HarryCurnow
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We would have got another young mid with pick one but not Stocker.
Stocker is a jet and have currency for a good senior performer which is what this list needs not another young mid..
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Cool
He's made it worse!
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Yikes. I wonder if there's an equivalent video of the Adelaide booth falling over themselves to take the deal.
The damning part for me is the way that they keep reassuring themselves, "We rate this kid at pick 6." That's an alarmingly dumb view of market dynamics (or else desperation). Because even if they're geniuses and correctly value Stocker at Pick 6 while no-one else does, while also correctly predicting that the Blues will rise up the ladder and make their 2019 first-rounder less valuable, that still doesn't justify overpaying the market rate.
It's like I have a diamond and I want to swap it for a tomato because I really like tomatoes and don't rate diamonds. I can make that trade and feel like I came out ahead, but the correct move is first to swap my diamond for what other people think it's worth ($$$), then pay what other people think the tomato is worth ($), giving me the tomato + $$ left over.
If he was allowed to pick his son, which i highly doubt he would have been involved in. Then Carlton have massive governance issues.
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Don’t know if Venice’s Grand Canal could handle that
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Re-writing history there. Sure you don't become a premiership threat over night, but wouldn't there be an obvious progression if Carlton's recruiting was following in Richmond's footsteps.
Hardwick's first four seasons
2010 - 6 wins
2011 - 8.5 wins
2012 - 10.5 wins
2013 - 15 wins
Even if you didn’t want to take pick 1 to the draft, what do you think you’d be able to extract from another club for the first pick in the draft? Stocker was rated by every other club where Carlton picked him, only Carlton rated him top 10.
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Having seen Stocker really close playing out of his prime position as an inside pitbull. He never makes mistakes in the backhalf (playing out of position) and his aggression for a teenager is second to none. I look forward to our next coach playing him in position and develop him the right way.
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Being fair re the infamous trade, if this year’s number one is a spud or no better a player than Stocker or whoever Carlton takes this year then Carlton can still win it. We do need to wait and see.
If pick one is a superstar and Stocker and this year’s pick are average then they will rightly be absolutely canned.
If pick one is a superstar and Stocker and this year’s pick are average then they will rightly be absolutely canned.
If he doesn’t trade the crows first round pick and chooses to draft a youngster with it then would you call it a mistake?
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Yes, the trade outcome now lies with whoever Carlton can land with Adelaides pick + a possible future first.
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Almost every expert has a glowing endorsement of our list.. Which is why only having 1 win is unacceptable and Bolton had to go.. The list is fine, and every available coach will be lining up to take on the list. What SOS has done has been very good, sure there are some misses but overwhelmingly over the past 3 years we have got them right.
Missing an experienced free agent target like Dylan Shiel is probably SOS only real failure.
Missing an experienced free agent target like Dylan Shiel is probably SOS only real failure.
It is going to be interesting if he does decide to take it to the draft and not use it in a trade
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