News Swans Talk in the Media 2023

[Membling]

The conventional wisdom across the league is that we'll give our first and then some, not just here.

I hold very little store in the AFLs conventional wisdom.

"Dawson is not worth pick five" springs to mind....

 

[Bonz]

Can't think of our last big hit from a first round non-Academy selection in quite a while.. Florent?

EDIT: I guess technically Logan too.

Sheldrick, Logan, Florent all good selections in recent times.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Firstly Im not a list manager of an AFL team, so I've no idea of any contract details. So in short, I dont know (sh*t answer sorry)

But
Ive watched the Swans play without 2 x McCartins + Rampe + Logan + Reid + Amartey + Buddy + both our rucks being injured or underdone. We went from grand finalists to crap. Same thing happened a few years ago resulting in Allirr playing ruck and a bottom 4 finish.
Ive watched Reids career show so much at times but never really contribute to success due to injury,, same goes with Amartey who has huge upside but is yet to complete a pre-season and hasn't come close to completing a season. Injured players are useless.. Injured talls that our team structure is built around are worse.
A big reason for the Swans defence being so good in the past was Grundy and Smith (+ others) never getting injured. A back 6 has to play together every game to understand each other and play as One
If T Mac and Melican played every game without injury next year, we would be better than good.
Himmelberg doesn't get injured.. Arnold looks good and seems to not be injury prone.. How far away is Will Edwards? Maybe more interceptors rather than lock down defenders but I think those roles overlap more and more..

Of course Barrass will make our team better (when fit) for the next 3 maybe 4 years. I question how much hes worth?
If a late 1st - early 2nd,, then yep trade him in.

PS. just to be a smart ass - We weren't able to contend the moment Reid got injured. Would Barrass be the same?

In answer to the last I don't think so. Reid was incredibly structurally important and losing him on the day left a hole we didn't have the resources within the team to fill. Losing a defender is less critical as we are better equipped to restructure around that loss.

 

[wills2g]

Firstly Im not a list manager of an AFL team, so I've no idea of any contract details. So in short, I dont know (sh*t answer sorry)

But
Ive watched the Swans play without 2 x McCartins + Rampe + Logan + Reid + Amartey + Buddy + both our rucks being injured or underdone. We went from grand finalists to crap. Same thing happened a few years ago resulting in Allirr playing ruck and a bottom 4 finish.
Ive watched Reids career show so much at times but never really contribute to success due to injury,, same goes with Amartey who has huge upside but is yet to complete a pre-season and hasn't come close to completing a season. Injured players are useless.. Injured talls that our team structure is built around are worse.
A big reason for the Swans defence being so good in the past was Grundy and Smith (+ others) never getting injured. A back 6 has to play together every game to understand each other and play as One
If T Mac and Melican played every game without injury next year, we would be better than good.
Himmelberg doesn't get injured.. Arnold looks good and seems to not be injury prone.. How far away is Will Edwards? Maybe more interceptors rather than lock down defenders but I think those roles overlap more and more..

Of course Barrass will make our team better (when fit) for the next 3 maybe 4 years. I question how much hes worth?
If a late 1st - early 2nd,, then yep trade him in.

PS. just to be a smart ass - We weren't able to contend the moment Reid got injured. Would Barrass be the same?

I get where youre coming from but I think being a Sydney team we dont have a choice but to take a punt albeit paying overs for a chance to win the flag.

We tried Moore that was a no and we have tried Barass multiple times with the rumours of past years. If Hawkins didnt monster us in the fwd line we’d probably had a chance to come back in the GF. We just dont have an answer to monster KPFs which the club migjt think as whats missing

 

[bedford]

Heeney on 360 tonight

 

[bedford]

Swans social media updating they're Furphy best ever Swan s team and the dickheads have Paul Kelly and the greatest rover in history Bob Skilton on the wings !
The beer or camels piss is bad enough

 

[bloodsbigot]

Swans social media updating they're Furphy best ever Swan s team and the dickheads have Paul Kelly and the greatest rover in history Bob Skilton on the wings !
The beer or camels piss is bad enough

In fairness it's voted for by the fans, so it's not the opinion of the club.

I'd have opted for Bob Pratt over O Loughlin.

 

[bedford]

In fairness it's voted for by the fans, so it's not the opinion of the club.

I'd have opted for Bob Pratt over O Loughlin.

And a lot of new fans probably have no idea about say Skilton , that's why it should never be a fan thing

 

[Cadsky]

Twomey says Stephens contact discussions put on hold to end of year.

Tiger eyes new deal, Roo undecided on 2024, Crow set to sign

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

 

[Jewelsbon]

Twomey says Stephens contact discussions put on hold to end of year.

Tiger eyes new deal, Roo undecided on 2024, Crow set to sign

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Well colour me shocked

 

[Millky95]

Twomey says Stephens contact discussions put on hold to end of year.

Tiger eyes new deal, Roo undecided on 2024, Crow set to sign

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Hardly surprising. Don't blame him for going but really want him to stay. Will be a gun in a better system

 

[MF]

He could still become a very good player, but I can also see him being one of those journeymen who gets to 150 games without having much impact. I don't have a major problem with another club finding out which it is.

He probably needs to go to a bottom or mid ladder team and be given a wing to operate on all year. With Gulden, Campbell and McInerney in our side he's never going to get the opportunities he needs to improve here.

 

[Tedeski]

He could still become a very good player, but I can also see him being one of those journeymen who gets to 150 games without having much impact. I don't have a major problem with another club finding out which it is.

He probably needs to go to a bottom or mid ladder team and be given a wing to operate on all year. With Gulden, Campbell and McInerney in our side he's never going to get the opportunities he needs to improve here.

Time to change our recruiters. Consistently getting our top picks wrong.
Other than our academy picks, mwhich are handed on a plate to them to select, Beatson & co have got it badly wrong in these few down years when we have been rewarded with a top pick for being shit!

 

[Big Blood]

In answer to the last I don't think so. Reid was incredibly structurally important and losing him on the day left a hole we didn't have the resources within the team to fill. Losing a defender is less critical as we are better equipped to restructure around that loss.

Agree on Reid and I thought we did well to make up for the loss of our back talls for those 10 rounds or so.

But this intercept marking stat is a shocker.

Each AFL club’s intercept mark kings

All the intercept mark numbers.

www.sen.com.au

Richmond is #1 in the comp for intercept marks with 337. We've taken 238, ranking.... 18th. Given the number of centre clearances we've lost and I50s conceded we've probably had more intercept 'opportunities' than anyone else.

Our top intercept marker is Blakey with 36. Noah Balta has taken 70.

 

[Millky95]

Agree on Reid and I thought we did well to make up for the loss of our back talls for those 10 rounds or so.

But this intercept marking stat is a shocker.

Each AFL club’s intercept mark kings

All the intercept mark numbers.

www.sen.com.au

Richmond is #1 in the comp for intercept marks with 337. We've taken 238, ranking.... 18th. Given the number of centre clearances we've lost and I50s conceded we've probably had more intercept 'opportunities' than anyone else.

Our top intercept marker is Blakey with 36. Noah Balta has taken 70.

Missing P.Mac down back

 

[Del198236]

Twomey says Stephens contact discussions put on hold to end of year.

Tiger eyes new deal, Roo undecided on 2024, Crow set to sign

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Another section in this article spoke about Bauer about to sign at the tigers.
He debuted against the Swans and had a good 2 minutes before injured, and has done well at VFL level after being a mid-season pick up.
It was interesting that when he debuted, the commentators said he was a mid season draftee, but there was no mention of where he learnt his craft. In this article there is also no mention where he learnt his craft. Bauer was of course a Swans Academy player and even though Sydney Swans were mentioned twice, Riley Beveridge (who seems to hate the Swans as much as Twomey) failed to link the Swans Academy.
Media will always make a point that that Swans player came from the Academy, they've even said things like Chad Warner is from the Academy,, but when the Academy is beneficial to a Melbourne club.... Silence

Terrible and biased journalism... but we're all used to that.

F**k I would love to knock off both Melbourne and the Pies out of the finals again!

 

[Swans22]

Agree on Reid and I thought we did well to make up for the loss of our back talls for those 10 rounds or so.

But this intercept marking stat is a shocker.

Each AFL club’s intercept mark kings

All the intercept mark numbers.

www.sen.com.au

Richmond is #1 in the comp for intercept marks with 337. We've taken 238, ranking.... 18th. Given the number of centre clearances we've lost and I50s conceded we've probably had more intercept 'opportunities' than anyone else.

Our top intercept marker is Blakey with 36. Noah Balta has taken 70.

Thanks for this.
Whilst I'm not surprised that we aren't rated highly, this is quite staggering this only reinforces the importance to bring in a gun KPD who can intercept ie Barass. Imagine if we can fix up this part of our game.

 

[SwansProudly]

Will it take 12, 12½ or 13 wins to make the top eight this season?

Fifteen of the 18 AFL clubs remain in finals contention, with Collingwood, Port Adelaide, Brisbane Lions and Melbourne in strong positions to secure a top-four spot – and the double chance.

,,,

12. Sydney (8-9-1, 34 points, 111.8%)
Did as they needed to, defeating the Dockers in Perth to stay in the race. The Swans have improved in the past six weeks, so that is reason for hope they can launch an assault, plus their remaining draw is friendlier than others. Beating Essendon on Saturday night and the Giants next week is a must, given they are already a game behind eighth-placed Geelong. Sydney need to win four of their last five at minimum, and may require their closest rivals, including GWS, to simultaneously fall over.

RUN HOME
R20: v Essendon (Marvel Stadium)
R21: v GWS Giants (Giants Stadium)
R22: v Gold Coast (SCG)
R23: v Adelaide (Adelaide Oval)
R24: v Melbourne (SCG)

The race for the eight: The run home for those in contention

It promises to be a thrilling race for the last few finals spots in the final five rounds, with only six points separating the fifth-placed Bulldogs from the 12th-ranked Sydney Swans.

www.theage.com.au

 

[SwansProudly]

In-form Swans superstar poses hurdle for Bombers in high-stakes clash​

Lance Franklin has often dined out on Essendon throughout his glittering career and looms as a major threat again to the Bombers in Saturday night's clash
By AAP

Lance Franklin as the sun sets during Sydney's training session at the SCG on July 27, 2023. Picture: Phil Hillyard
LANCE Franklin's menacing return to form should have Essendon fans' nerves jangling ahead of their side's high-stakes clash with Sydney.
Franklin has tormented the Bombers over the years with 79 goals in 20 meetings - more than he has kicked against any other club.
And while the 36-year-old is nearing the end of his glittering career, there is a sense he would relish delivering another knockout blow to an old rival at Marvel Stadium on Saturday night.
Franklin has kicked multiple goals in three straight matches and looms large over a contest that will have a huge bearing on both sides' finals chances.

In-form Swans superstar poses hurdle for Bombers in high-stakes clash

Lance Franklin has often dined out on Essendon throughout his glittering career and looms as a major threat again to the Bombers in Saturday night's clash

www.afl.com.au

 

[MF]

Agree on Reid and I thought we did well to make up for the loss of our back talls for those 10 rounds or so.

But this intercept marking stat is a shocker.

Each AFL club’s intercept mark kings

All the intercept mark numbers.

www.sen.com.au

Richmond is #1 in the comp for intercept marks with 337. We've taken 238, ranking.... 18th. Given the number of centre clearances we've lost and I50s conceded we've probably had more intercept 'opportunities' than anyone else.

Our top intercept marker is Blakey with 36. Noah Balta has taken 70.

Exactly why another quality KPD is a much more urgent need than upgrading our ruckman

 

[Ticky009]

Its a WIN - celebrate it you miserable lot!

Swans alive after beating Bombers but is it the end for Buddy?

Sydney survives a thrilling finish against Essendon but injury to superstar could be the end of his season and career

www.afl.com.au

Swans somehow survive BONKERS Dons comeback; shattering Buddy image after setback: 3-2-1

Swans survive bonkers Bomber blitz... just; shattering Buddy image after ‘old man’s injury’: 3-2-1

www.foxsports.com.au

Swans hold off fast-finishing Bombers, but Buddy injury sours triumph

Essendon’s finals aspirations have taken another big hit after their stirring fightback ended in a two-point loss to Sydney, who will sweat on Lance Franklin’s future after the star veteran injured his calf.

www.theage.com.au

Paywalled

Sydney v Essendon - Mongrel Talking Points - The Mongrel Punt

The Swans managed to hold off a charging Essendon to secure a huge road win and keep their finals dreams alive. HB has the Talking Points

themongrelpunt.com

Herald Sun

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fafl-2023-all-the-news-fallout-from-essendon-vs-sydney-swans%2Fnews-story%2Fb83f8d4e87beb5f7badc931c503c7f94&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=GROUPA-Segment-5-NOSCORE

 

[Ticky009]

Swans Talk starts 4:25 mins into video

TRSF: Big Pie under fire, issues for Dogs, what's wrong with Cats?

Riley Beveridge and Kane Cornes bring you The Round So Far for round 20

www.afl.com.au

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Its a WIN - celebrate it you miserable lot!

Swans alive after beating Bombers but is it the end for Buddy?

Sydney survives a thrilling finish against Essendon but injury to superstar could be the end of his season and career

www.afl.com.au

Swans somehow survive BONKERS Dons comeback; shattering Buddy image after setback: 3-2-1

Swans survive bonkers Bomber blitz... just; shattering Buddy image after ‘old man’s injury’: 3-2-1

www.foxsports.com.au

Swans hold off fast-finishing Bombers, but Buddy injury sours triumph

Essendon’s finals aspirations have taken another big hit after their stirring fightback ended in a two-point loss to Sydney, who will sweat on Lance Franklin’s future after the star veteran injured his calf.

www.theage.com.au

Paywalled

Sydney v Essendon - Mongrel Talking Points - The Mongrel Punt

The Swans managed to hold off a charging Essendon to secure a huge road win and keep their finals dreams alive. HB has the Talking Points

themongrelpunt.com

Herald Sun

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fafl-2023-all-the-news-fallout-from-essendon-vs-sydney-swans%2Fnews-story%2Fb83f8d4e87beb5f7badc931c503c7f94&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=GROUPA-Segment-5-NOSCORE

LOL love the Fox headline BONKERS comeback

 

[Ticky009]

Really can't listen to those 2

You don't need to tell us every time though.

 

[bedford]

You don't need to tell us every time though.

lol i was more thinking of Barrett .
The so called journo in the Murdoch rag only gave Gulden 2 and Langford 3