Draft Profile Tarryn Thomas [NGA for North Melbourne]

[Toadvine]

It’s not 1996. If you think any club is in a fight for survival then you’re deluded.

There is more chance of Richmond starting another “save our skins” campaign than a team not surviving.

The AFL engineered the Tassie deal because of North's financial vulnerability.

Even North's own Media and Communications GM said and I quote
"We(North) aren't strong enough or big enough to operate solely in Victoria."

Those are his words. I don't think their is anything wrong in me saying that the AFL has used the allocation of academy zones to further strengthen North's ties to the state which is crucial to your clubs viability.

 

[Wild Bill]

The AFL engineered the Tassie deal because of North's financial vulnerability.

Even North's own Media and Communications GM said and I quote
"We(North) aren't strong enough or big enough to operate solely in Victoria."

Those are his words. I don't think their is anything wrong in me saying that the AFL has used the allocation of academy zones to further strengthen North's ties to the state which is crucial to your clubs viability.

Post the link.

After paying off our 8 million dollar debt we are now golden. Discussing our viability is clearly trolling. But hey - it might be a great distraction from the pain Tiger supporters are currently in. Horrible to lose a flag when odds on........

 

[Toadvine]

Post the link.

After paying off our 8 million dollar debt we are now golden. Discussing our viability is clearly trolling. But hey - it might be a great distraction from the pain Tiger supporters are currently in. Horrible to lose a flag when odds on........

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Enough with the personal attacks and abuse, please.

Of 700 interactions with the Hobart 4th game post on Facebook, 611 were positive as of this morning. The membership department's feedback re response from members has been overwhelmingly positive too. Emails coming in are majority supportive of the move as well as calls. Yeah, some are negative, but there's way more of the other, by a long way. We've been keeping tabs on it all and there are no alarm bells.

We were prepared for some membership angst, but have been pleasantly surprised because most people understand the need for us to grow. Most people can do the math and see that in 2008 we had approx 34k members ... today we have 41k ... minus 7k Tassie members and we have 34k ... back to where we were a decade ago despite some heavy lifting and hard work.

So how do we grow?

The truth is, we have somewhat stagnated in Victoria and needed to develop a long term, sustainable strategy, identifying three markets for growth; North Melbourne/Victoria, Wyndham and Tas.

Membership growth, a massive financial boost beyond anything we could achieve at home, and more wins for the footy dept all came from the opportunity in Tas and are all going to help us to win more and hopefully bring home another flag.

If we didn't do this Tassie deal, where do you think we'd be right now? Yep, at the behest of the AFL again, just like in 2007. We aren't strong enough or big enough to operate solely in Victoria. I get the angst about reserve seats and we are genuinely trying to find a solution that fixes it. I get the angst about us being effectively semi relocated because of 4 'home' games away, but if we are, so too is Hawthorn.

So what would you have us do? I've read every post on this thread so far and have not seen a solution or anything that comes even close. I've seen suggestions that simply won't work or ones that have been tried and have failed, and I've seen some other ideas which are fanciful.

If we win 4 games in Tassie in 2019 and it helps us play finals, would you be happy with that? Would you buy a ticket if we made a prelim again? Would you do everything in your power to secure a GF seat if we made it? You might laugh at this proposition, but the club is thinking this way. 4 wins in Tassie this year would have seen us in the finals.

But we all know there are other benefits to the deal too - those don't need to be mentioned other than to say they help us stay competitive off the field with the rest of the comp, and allow us to remain an attractive club for FAs and other players.

Over the past 10 years I've done my best to embrace BF and offer insights and information where it's not readily available and in that time, I have met some fantastic fans and amazing, loyal, people.

But as of today, I'm done with BF because sadly, it has become a waste of time full of people I don't care to spend energy on. Those people make more stuff up on here than the Daily Mail and run their mouths off about things that simply aren't true - destroying reputations in their wake. They abuse people and criticise - constantly and can never be pleased. It's actually quite sad. Instead of messaging me and asking "Why was Glenn Archer quoted and how did that come about?" they conclude that it was a clumsy PR strategy and attack me and my team. You really don't deserve my time, or anyone else's.

To those who have sent me messages of support (as recently as today) and thanked me for trying to explain things from the club POV since 2008 - I really respect you and hope to see you around. You are good North people who know how to support a club. Anyone who wants to stay in touch, my email is heath.oloughlin@nmfc.com.au and you can reach me there.

This account will now be deleted.

Heath

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ttending-advice.1119004/page-96#post-58538368

How is it a troll to discuss North Melbourne's affiliation with Tasmania in a thread about a Tasmanian Academy player allocated to North Melbourne? I'm sorry it makes you uncomfortable but clearly you aren't a realist like those who actually work at your club who just so happen to agree with me.

North's affiliation with Tasmania is essential to it's survival and that's why your club is only increasing its commitment as time goes on. The Academy, the North Melbourne Tasmanian Kangaroos womens team and now with an extra game played their each year is testament to that.

 

[Kimbo]

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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ttending-advice.1119004/page-96#post-58538368

How is it a troll to discuss North Melbourne's affiliation with Tasmania in a thread about a Tasmanian Academy player allocated to North Melbourne? I'm sorry it makes you uncomfortable but clearly you aren't a realist like those who actually work at your club who just so happen to agree with me.

North's affiliation with Tasmania is essential to it's survival and that's why your club is only increasing its commitment as time goes on. The Academy, the North Melbourne Tasmanian Kangaroos womens team and now with an extra game played their each year is testament to that.

Just be aware that Heath was a bit 'rubbery' with some of those figures and acting as apologist for a club decision re 4 games that a good many don't agree with. There is a strong view that the club is cutting off its nose to spite its face regarding Victorian members.

What's Hawthorn's NGA 'zone'?

 

[Toadvine]

Just be aware that Heath was a bit 'rubbery' with some of those figures and acting as apologist for a club decision re 4 games that a good many don't agree with. There is a strong view that the club is cutting off its nose to spite its face regarding Victorian members.

What's Hawthorn's NGA 'zone'?

I'd take the word of North's Media and Communications GM regarding North's financial situation over a brightside bigfooty posters thank you.

If your club was becoming more financial secure it would be reducing its presence in TAS not increasing it. I can understand the benifits of the academy but the official name of your women's team and an extra game in 2019 and beyond is surely all the evidence you need of your clubs reliance on TAS to be successful.

If you guys could just let it go we can get back to talking about TT?

Hawthorn's zones are Katherine in WA, the eastern ranges and Gippsland.

 

[Rad Roo]

Tt best player ever

 

[Verdun]

I'd take the word of North's Media and Communications GM regarding North's financial situation over a brightside bigfooty posters thank you.

If your club was becoming more financial secure it would be reducing its presence in TAS not increasing it. I can understand the benifits of the academy but the official name of your women's team and an extra game in 2019 and beyond is surely all the evidence you need of your clubs reliance on TAS to be successful.

If you guys could just let it go we can get back to talking about TT?

Hawthorn's zones are Katherine in WA, the eastern ranges and Gippsland.

As a taxpaying Tasmanian im sick of throwing money at North Melbourne (and historically Hawks). Should pull all $s out that we give to the AFL

 

[Kimbo]

I'd take the word of North's Media and Communications GM regarding North's financial situation over a brightside bigfooty posters thank you.

If your club was becoming more financial secure it would be reducing its presence in TAS not increasing it. I can understand the benifits of the academy but the official name of your women's team and an extra game in 2019 and beyond is surely all the evidence you need of your clubs reliance on TAS to be successful.

If you guys could just let it go we can get back to talking about TT?

Hawthorn's zones are Katherine in WA, the eastern ranges and Gippsland.

You introduced Heath's comments so I would think it's reasonable to discuss them. There's plenty of nuance in it all, but you seem pretty testy, so I'll leave it be.

I'm not fond of the whole 'zone' thing with academies of any kind, but given they are what they are, I'm not unhappy we're getting TT for a smattering of third round picks, just as other clubs have been, and will be, with various F/S and academy choices. I'm curious to see if he lives up to his potential.

 

[Wild Bill]

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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ttending-advice.1119004/page-96#post-58538368

How is it a troll to discuss North Melbourne's affiliation with Tasmania in a thread about a Tasmanian Academy player allocated to North Melbourne? I'm sorry it makes you uncomfortable but clearly you aren't a realist like those who actually work at your club who just so happen to agree with me.

North's affiliation with Tasmania is essential to it's survival and that's why your club is only increasing its commitment as time goes on. The Academy, the North Melbourne Tasmanian Kangaroos womens team and now with an extra game played their each year is testament to that.

So your quoting a Bigfooty poster as if it’s a fact!!!

Wow - that’s embarrassing and the only thing that is making me uncomfortable.

 

[ManOfClay]

So your quoting a Bigfooty poster as if it’s a fact!!!

Wow - that’s embarrassing and the only thing that is making me uncomfortable.

A bigfooty poster who has made it known he is an official club representative. I’m not sure your deflection from that works

 

[Toadvine]

So your quoting a Bigfooty poster as if it’s a fact!!!

Wow - that’s embarrassing and the only thing that is making me uncomfortable.

Wild Bill mate seriously. You know that the Heath in that post is Heath O'Loughlin who is the GM of Media, Communications and Marketing at North. Pretending to think otherwise because you couldn't form a rebuttal is pretty sad considering you're a poster I have respect for.

 

[Pykie]

What the **** does this have to do with Thomas?

Take it to one of the many other troll threads.

 

[Toadvine]

What the **** does this have to do with Thomas?

Take it to one of the many other troll threads.

I was explaining to another poster why North were allocated the entirety of Tasmania for its Academy Zone and some North posters got into a tissy over it and derailed the thread. That's in-spite of the fact that Heath O'Loughlin the GM of Media, Communications & Marketing at North Melbourne agrees with my comments. As I proved with a direct quote from him.

 

[Wild Bill]

A bigfooty poster who has made it known he is an official club representative. I’m not sure your deflection from that works

Yeah - no one ever on the internet pretends to be someone they are not. That catfish show is a hoax.

 

[Pykie]

I was explaining to another poster why North were allocated the entirety of Tasmania for its Academy Zone and some North posters got into a tissy over it and derailed the thread. That's in-spite of the fact that Heath O'Loughlin the GM of Media, Communications & Marketing at North Melbourne agrees with my comments. As I proved with a direct quote from him.

We are allocated all of Tasmania because our other zones are Kensington, the Melbourne CBD and a section of Werribee split in half with the Bulldogs.

We have easily one of the worst zones allocated, or would you like to swap? Unless you think the rich football factory that is the Docklands is unreasonable.

That's why we get all of Tasmania.

 

[StiffArm]

As a taxpaying Tasmanian im sick of throwing money at North Melbourne (and historically Hawks). Should pull all $s out that we give to the AFL

That's a pretty short sighted view you have there mate.

The reason Tasmania pays what it does for AFL is because the economy gets significant stimulus from the games being hosted down there. Plenty of tourists from the mainland who come down for the weekend and spent money.

 

[Verdun]

That's a pretty short sighted view you have there mate.

The reason Tasmania pays what it does for AFL is because the economy gets significant stimulus from the games being hosted down there. Plenty of tourists from the mainland who come down for the weekend and spent money.

Oh thank you for your righteousness, mate.

Tasmanian economy is in good shape, the millions spent propping your club up should be spent elsewhere.- The AFL has shafted Tas for decades, my opinion is not 'short sighted ' it is based on on knowledge if we had spent it on our own footy or another sport or elsewhere we would have our own team with otner teams supporters still coming here. Another option includes the NBL team here soon and i reckon the money spent propping up you club should be re directed to it.
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As a North supporter you are entitled to defend your existence, but do not be surprised when a state that is subsidising you financially and with players does not feel priveleged to do so; maybe you could acknowledge how damn lucky you are to exist.

 

[StiffArm]

Oh thank you for your righteousness, mate.

Tasmanian economy is in good shape, the millions spent propping your club up should be spent elsewhere.- The AFL has shafted Tas for decades, my opinion is not 'short sighted ' it is based on on knowledge if we had spent it on our own footy or another sport or elsewhere we would have our own team with otner teams supporters still coming here. Another option includes the NBL team here soon and i reckon the money spent propping up you club should be re directed to it.

As a North supporter you are entitled to defend your existence, but do not be surprised when a state that is subsidising you financially and with players feels priveleged to do so; maybe you could acknowledge how damn lucky you are to exist.

The fact is that the tasmanian economy gets back more money from the investment than what you funnel to North and Hawthorn, so don't go around crying poor. Whether the money could be better spent on your own team or other infrastructure is not something we can reasonably settle on an internet forum.

I agree that Tasmania has been shafted, they should have gotten a licence instead of Gold Coast. North was also shafted out of the regional victoria presence which left us in Tas. I'm not sure anything is going to change soon, Tassie will need to either wait for Gold Coast to fold, or for plans for a 20th team.

 

[Verdun]

The fact is that the tasmanian economy gets back more money from the investment than what you funnel to North and Hawthorn, so don't go around crying poor. Whether the money could be better spent on your own team or other infrastructure is not something we can reasonably settle on an internet forum.

I agree that Tasmania has been shafted, they should have gotten a licence instead of Gold Coast. North was also shafted out of the regional victoria presence which left us in Tas. I'm not sure anything is going to change soon, Tassie will need to either wait for Gold Coast to fold, or for plans for a 20th team.

Not crying poor at all, just pointing out the obvious. Tas is no longer that place that take or it shouldn't be that accepts tokenism.

Yes it is a benefit having AFL here but it can be done differently. Your club benefits greaatly from playing here some honesty re this simple fact may be worthwhile.

The AFL has relied on Tas being a footy state and being grateful for anything, that is changing......people over it and directing effort elsewhere eg NBL

The rest of your post is spot on, good luck for the season

 

[Verdun]

The fact is that the tasmanian economy gets back more money from the investment than what you funnel to North and Hawthorn, so don't go around crying poor. Whether the money could be better spent on your own team or other infrastructure is not something we can reasonably settle on an internet forum.

I agree that Tasmania has been shafted, they should have gotten a licence instead of Gold Coast. North was also shafted out of the regional victoria presence which left us in Tas. I'm not sure anything is going to change soon, Tassie will need to either wait for Gold Coast to fold, or for plans for a 20th team.

Why can a internet forum be used to state that Tas benefit econically from games here but not discuss that it would also benefit by investing elsewhere?

 

[Ambrosia]

Agree that North were lucky the academy rules came in when they did as they've had minimal impact on development of Thomas but the same can be said of all clubs that got new academies. It was always going to be luck of the draw early years

 

[StiffArm]

Why can a internet forum be used to state that Tas benefit econically from games here but not discuss that it would also benefit by investing elsewhere?

It can be discussed, my claim was it won't be settled.

Good luck for the season

 

[Verdun]

It can be discussed, my claim was it won't be settled.

Good luck for the season

You wond Dr

It can be discussed, my claim was it won't be settled.

Good luck for the season

Righto wil keep discussing; best not to be short sighted or ignorant.

I was being sincere re your season no need for ongoing righteousness, you'll get a good one in Thomas, and along with you other recruits including another Tasmanian in Hall wil watch with interest.

Always good to have a look at all points of view may help with improving areas that benefit your club. From a broad point of view it might be worth onsidering what will make your time in Tas more positive for example could be investing in local league then vfl instead of treating it just as a cash cow and player source for your club.

Doesnt help being short sighted and stopping discussion

 

[Wild Bill]

Exciting prospect - trading away our top 10 pick for a very good player and then getting a top 10 talent in the draft is great result.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...r/news-story/f5caf4c4b45c15645af118165c53b0fa

 

[telsor]

Exciting prospect - trading away our top 10 pick for a very good player and then getting a top 10 talent in the draft is great result.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...r/news-story/f5caf4c4b45c15645af118165c53b0fa

If he gets bid on within the top-10, you're going to be struggling for points by the end and may end up taking a hit next year too.

This (and Collingwood who are in a similar situation) is one of the more interesting 'side stories' of the draft IMO, and both clubs would be hoping they haven't pissed opposition clubs off enough for them to make spoiler bids.