TAS Tassie... happening?
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1. The Mercury Tas. 3.6.19
Some background information on Virgin Airlines founding CEO, B.Godfrey, who will chair the Tas. Govt. supported Project Team attempting to establish a Tas. AFL team.
https://twitter.com/tasaflteam?lang=en
(Then click on story of June 3, with Richard Branson's -Virgin Airlines owner- photo on it. This will allow the full Mercury article to appear)
This twitter feed also has other good information on the progress of the Tas. AFL bid; & improving U 18 Tas. NAB Cup results vs. Vic. NAB Cup teams etc.
2. The Advocate Tas. A.Fair 3.6.19
K. Sheedy appears supportive of a Tas. AFL team, saying:-
."...the state must unite as one if it is ever to see the dream of a Tasmanian team in th national competition...".
."...EVERY (my emphasis) region should be getting a chance (with a local AFL team in the State- my words) to get their kids to play...".
We all know that creating AFL teams in NSW & Qld. has created a huge momentum in the GR AF participant boom/good AFL Draft nos. in those states.
The reverse also, logically, applies ie NOT having an AFL team in a state is, in the current era,a great burden for encouraging people to play AF/creating good AFL Draft nos.
Tas. has successful professional cricket teams. Basketball & soccer GR participant nos. have been growing very strongly in Tas., whilst the % growth rate of male AF GR competition nos. has been poor- or in decline recently.
https://www.theadvocate.com.au/stor...to-achieve-afl-dream-says-kevin-sheedy/?cs=88
Some background information on Virgin Airlines founding CEO, B.Godfrey, who will chair the Tas. Govt. supported Project Team attempting to establish a Tas. AFL team.
https://twitter.com/tasaflteam?lang=en
(Then click on story of June 3, with Richard Branson's -Virgin Airlines owner- photo on it. This will allow the full Mercury article to appear)
This twitter feed also has other good information on the progress of the Tas. AFL bid; & improving U 18 Tas. NAB Cup results vs. Vic. NAB Cup teams etc.
2. The Advocate Tas. A.Fair 3.6.19
K. Sheedy appears supportive of a Tas. AFL team, saying:-
."...the state must unite as one if it is ever to see the dream of a Tasmanian team in th national competition...".
."...EVERY (my emphasis) region should be getting a chance (with a local AFL team in the State- my words) to get their kids to play...".
We all know that creating AFL teams in NSW & Qld. has created a huge momentum in the GR AF participant boom/good AFL Draft nos. in those states.
The reverse also, logically, applies ie NOT having an AFL team in a state is, in the current era,a great burden for encouraging people to play AF/creating good AFL Draft nos.
Tas. has successful professional cricket teams. Basketball & soccer GR participant nos. have been growing very strongly in Tas., whilst the % growth rate of male AF GR competition nos. has been poor- or in decline recently.
https://www.theadvocate.com.au/stor...to-achieve-afl-dream-says-kevin-sheedy/?cs=88
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Maybe they could relocate the Blues- The Tasmanian Blue Devils?
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Dont know why they would. Who would follow them? Not many are just going to give up being a Freo or Eagles supporter. There isn't some unrepresented segment of society like there was before WC, so it won't likely make more money, it will just dig into already existing profits.
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They will need some kind of COLA, even though its cheaper to live there, but rather just an incentive to live there. If they are challenging for a flag, I don't think players care where they live.
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It would work if WA had a second city of 250k+ a fair way away from Perth, but a third team based in Perth would need to offer a significant point of difference, the best option would be in the northern suburbs but that is probably pushing it
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Would be much cheaper for the Tasmanian side to just not draft soft/weak-of-character players, surely?
It would only work if some of the 2million perth residents who dont currently go to live footy at the stadium (due to membership numbers and limited seats) decided they did want to attend matches live.
Basically there is a core group of about 90-100k people who go to footy in perth. The rest maybe happy to be non attending members and watch their team exclusively on tv. But if they wanted to become regular attendees then having around 50,000 people out of 2 million put their hand up would straight away make the 3rd team just as powerful as the dockers
What would they be called? Cant be the tigers. The devils? The Maps? What about the fireflies, thats a good un!
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Perhaps if they called it "Perth", it could potentially do that. The casual supporter who lives in Perth may go ahh thats me
It could only be the Devils.
The big issue I read with Sheedy's comment is its denialism. This would be the most government-involved team in the country. The parochialism issue would not be a problem because the team would instantly be the biggest election swinger in the state...anyone who would deny one end of the island to appease the other using the footy team would be tipping the boat, possibly catastrophically as far as votes go. Additionally, the AFL will not allow locals to run it - they will appoint their own people and make their own decisions by going over everyone's heads straight to the government. The heads they go over would include local footy, who also happen to be sucking on the teat of the AFL anyway.
Knowing this, that parochialism is an easily combatted issue as far as the AFL is concerned, the comments of Mike Fitzpatrick, who delivered a parting shot at Tassie saying that it was the single biggest killer of the ongoing bid, prove the clear deflection from the real issue. They don't want the side for tv reasons, because Tasmania is a regional market. That's pretty much it - a single reason carrying immense weight. They won't label the GC and GWS sides as tv rights-drawing cashcows despite the fact we all know that that's what they are (I'd seriously have no issue if they admitted this, if this was their contribution to Australian footy), so what hope admitting that tv controls the fate of a footy state? The most palatable thing you can say to the Australian football public, however, is that it's Tasmania's own fault (49 out of 50 Australians could then say "good, they're not blaming us"), and then point the finger at entirely unrelated issues where division has wrecked things for the state in the past. Sheedy is missing this. The AFL doesn't want the team, and are only being nice as of late because their top class Deloittes submission a decade ago, coming straight after a bubbly-fuelled badmouthing of the state from Fitzpatrick at a function, made them look like idiots. There must be someone employed full time at AFLHQ working the PR on the Tasmanian issue, because they seem to be tiptoeing...
Its a crying shame a traditional AFL state has to wait behind Sydney and the Gold Coast for a team. Gill the Dill, make it happen you tall streak of big business sychophant.
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There needs to be another merger for this to eventuate. It is impossible to have 19 teams and maintain the quality of the player pool. Don't know who's going to have to merge but it will have to be a Vic club. If no teams want to put a merger together then just throw the cash at the first team who puts their hand up to move to Tassie. Problem solved... sorta...
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That's what they said with GWS/GC... there will be no merger, and the game will survive with a 19th team.
Yep.
3rd club in either nsw or WA for me
SA would be another consideration.
Those states are ripe for a 2nd game a weekend.
Retention component to their cap would be needed.
Club could possibly survive by basing itself out of Melbourne and flying down for the games. It’s not a cumbersome flight by any stretch.
If you can live in Adelaide without hanging yourself you can live in Tassie.
Adelaide has wine and seafood
Tassie has whisky and seafood
What’s not to like
Also, no melburnians or sydneysiders.
I'm not buying this "spreading the talent too thin" argument. Simple maths destroys it. Half the population of today's 25 million only a few decades ago supported 12 Victorian, 8 WA and 10 SA sides all claiming to be first tier footy, the "greatest clubs sides" ever if you listen to the locals in all 3 states, lots of champs...and we still played soccer, cricket, two rugbies and went to the Olympics. Now we've got 18 with double the population (those former top shelf teams are now feeders), and it'll all go to hell if we add one more...? Sure, we're not 99% anglo-aussie anymore, and we're having a bit of a struggle getting all those immigrants to shed their old notions and barrack for the greatest sport in the universe, but record attendance and interest suggests that it seems to be building and sustaining itself. Plus, the game's advanced - unlike yesteryear when training was three times a week after work with snags on Thursday, the modern footballer is now a professional - whether the footy's better is your opinion to make, but there's no denying that once you look below the all-time club champs and Brownlow medallists, today's typical AFL footballer, the bottom 90% of club lists, is a better athlete and a smarter player than anyone who's come before him...it's all in the coaching and training...
And again, if you want the job you'll go there. Players are more difficult to retain interstate, but it's because they're away from home (and in the case of Brisbane when it lost several players all at once a few years ago, because the franchise itself was a joke), not because of the state itself. It's also funny how something decried incessantly like Living From Home allowance by the Eddie brigade when Brisbane were winning, is now the issue which will cripple a side before it even starts...for it to be abolished, retention obviously wasn't seen as a problem worthy of assistance in practice anymore, but now apparently in theory it's a problem deemed insurmountable...?!?
Victoria's population in a decade or two will justify 10 teams. No mergers.
And again, if you want the job you'll go there. Players are more difficult to retain interstate, but it's because they're away from home (and in the case of Brisbane when it lost several players all at once a few years ago, because the franchise itself was a joke), not because of the state itself. It's also funny how something decried incessantly like Living From Home allowance by the Eddie brigade when Brisbane were winning, is now the issue which will cripple a side before it even starts...for it to be abolished, retention obviously wasn't seen as a problem worthy of assistance in practice anymore, but now apparently in theory it's a problem deemed insurmountable...?!?
Victoria's population in a decade or two will justify 10 teams. No mergers.
Anything to get rid of Hawthorn and North.
I'm totally for a Tassie team, in fact I'd become a member day 1 no question. They would be well supported imo. The whole state would get behind them I reckon, I just wish they would've had a team this whole time. They support Cricket fairly well and a AFL club would be no exception.
I really hope this VFL target for 2021 happens and that it proves successful and helps paves the way for an AFL club.
I really hope this VFL target for 2021 happens and that it proves successful and helps paves the way for an AFL club.
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It's "happening" in the sense that people have been appointed to think about how to convince the AFL to start considering a team in the distant future. Ultimately the local talent is key. Once it's at a level which the team doesn't have to rely heavily on players from interstate, then there's a case too strong to ignore.
A standalone women's team is much further away than a men's imo. U18 Tasmanian girls just lost by 58 and 68 points to NSW (the shallowest state talent pool after Tas). Those are worse than wallopings in a low-scoring context. Since there's less money in AFLW, local talent is even more important because it's too expensive to relocate players, hence no team has more than a couple interstaters each.
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