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[Here2tellyouwhy]

you calling Goldy a below tier ruck?

Quite the opposite I think mate

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

He wasn't traded because he's shit and nobody wanted him.
But yes Port payed overs and for too long.

Will be interesting to see how he goes this year

he wasnt traded because he wanted to stay at Port. There was interest in him. so please, before you insult anymore Port players, please get your facts correct

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Quite the opposite I think mate

he highlighted the 'below tier' rucks of which Goldy isnt one. he accuses me of not mentioning his name in that statement

therefore, he was calling Goldy a 'below tier' ruck

 

[cdcanman]

you calling Goldy a below tier ruck?

My post would suggest otherwise, no?
I was just thinking that you were, and that you delivered him the ultimate indignity of having him behind the likes of Hickey and Grundy.
I'm glad you set the record straight. The earth can start spinning again

 

[tigerfan11]

seeing what a 7 heavy mid looks like. if murphy goes alright, would ditch heppell and bring in big max.

 

[Fooler]

How's it any different to taking McGrath, McCluggage, Knight, McCarthy etc?

Because you have a plethora of options to trade those fwd/def rookies to if they break down. With witts (unless you're taking Ryder in the fwd line) you don't have the same options and will have to burn 2 trades to correct it.

Remember when all those people said BELLCHAMBERS! Bellchambers! What great value for my ruck! So much more money for elsewhere.

Boom, TBC spudded it, everyone was ****ed. There wasn't a rookie to trade down to and trading up meant culling a cow early etc.

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[TheDutchman]

I don't post much here, but read a lot and am keen for any opinions on this version. Not convinced on Rocky, initially had the Bont too. Trying to nail some good POD's is where i struggle...Will see JLT and try to make some informed decisions pre-rd 1

 

[Flandersss]

We still talking about Hartlett

Locked in at D3 for me.

Just for you Here2tellyouwhy

423k!?!? Def!?!? Where do I sign?

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Because you have a plethora of options to trade those fwd/def rookies to if they break down. With witts (unless you're taking Ryder in the fwd line) you don't have the same options and will have to burn 2 trades to correct it.

Remember when all those people said BELLCHAMBERS! Bellchambers! What great value for my ruck! So much more money for elsewhere.

Boom, TBC spudded it, everyone was ******. There wasn't a rookie to trade down to and trading up meant culling a cow early etc.

Why is this so hard to understand?

its not hard to understand, but SC is about risks, that was one that failed.
how about the time when a lot of us started with Blicavs at R2? that was a risk because he hasnt played for 10 years, goes on to be one of the best rookies of the season. for each bad experience, there is a good experience.

and if you were taking Witts or Sandi, youd be mad NOT to have Ryder in your fwd line

 

[Fooler]

I don't post much here, but read a lot and am keen for any opinions on this version. Not convinced on Rocky, initially had the Bont too. Trying to nail some good POD's is where i struggle...Will see JLT and try to make some informed decisions pre-rd 1View attachment 337045 View attachment 337046 View attachment 337047

Nice. Rolling with the same midfield atm (except hanners over JPK)
Don't like the Sandi pick tbh and don't buy into the heeney midfield hype! Will play forward, especially early. Watch him tear it up in JLT, suck everyone in and then get shoved back up forward.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

We still talking about Hartlett

Locked in at D3 for me.

training with defenders as the play maker off half back.

watch this space

 

[Flandersss]

training with defenders as the play maker off half back.

watch this space

Good or bad?

Prefer him playing mid

 

[Seymour Skinner]

With Vlastuin I think while Dimma is the coach he'll continue to get shafted as you say. The midfield group runs really deep, Cotchin, Martin, Caddy, Prestia, B. Ellis, Grigg, Miles, C. Ellis, McIntosh and Graham, obviously a lot of those guys, Vlastuin included are position versitile, it's just a really big gamble to take when there are a lot of guys more midfield proven. Dimma will likely hit the revert button if they lose games early.

I had Rocky for most of the preseason, he's only gone out in recent days to fit an extra premium down back, all I'm saying is that while you're taking risks on other players it might be best to get some security so if a few of your risks are out each week you've still got sufficient scoring.

Witt's is different because I think McGrath will average 75ish where Witts will struggle to score that much, he's more of a genuine tap ruck who really doesn't tackle, get a large chunk of disposals or mark the ball so all of his points will have to come from tap outs to advantage. Also with McGrath, Ainsworth ect it's easier to upgrade them because premo FWDS and Backs aren't as expensive as premo rucks, rucks will plato at 560k where a premo fwd/back could drop as low as 480 with a few bad games so starting with an expensive rookie in those lines is made much easier. You'd also need to make the Witts upgrade before round 9 because both him and Ryder have the same bye and we need 22 players or you'll be copping a donut.

Fyfe, Ryder and Roughead on top of Rocky, Witts and Vlastuin is a lot of if butts and maybes. Better to be picking consistent scorers week in week out and maybe you'll get lucky on one or two risks but taking 4 + stars returning from injury is a lot is all I'm saying.

I don't think we will be seeing BEllis, CEllis or McIntosh in the mid rotation too much this year, both Ellis' are looking like they'll be used much more as flankers. Graham is injured, hasn't started full training, I doubt he'll have any effect on Vlastuin's minutes at all. If we lose games early why would he hit the revert button when that would also be a losing formula as we were pretty bad last year.

Why not take a few risks? Last year only 8 of my starting premos were still in my team come round 23 (Shaw, Boyd, Selwood, Pendles, Goldy, Gawn, Dusty, Wells + Tom Lee and Luke Goetz as loopholes), I moved on 5 premos and 1 mid pricer through sideways trades throughout the year. I think at least 9 of the blokes I've picked will make it through this year, barring serious injury of course.

This is where I disagree with a few on BF, and as toxic pointed out in his post. If he duds it he's just another dodgy cash cow, last year I had Menadue, Dunkley, Gresham, Davis, McCarthy etc who were all pretty sub-par cash cows when I dumped them.
Completely disagree with the rucks plateauing at $560k-ish. Only two of the starting rucks are over 560k lol, there were 10 weeks last year where Goldy was under 560k. Grundy's highest price was only 503k and was only over 500k for 3 weeks. Stef Martin had everything possible go wrong so I won't even bother checking his.

Not worried about Fyfe at all, 50% of the comp will be in the same boat if he goes down, and there's no chance I'd let Fyfe be an Anti-POD against me.
Ryder has been out for a year, but not due to injury so I don't think it's too big a deal, he might start off a bit rusty but I'll back him to get back to his 95 ave of years gone by playing as the #1 ruck.
Roughy is a risk, if he's a bust it's a dud mid pricer, it's happened to me before and will happen again. Well worth it value wise IMO + who doesn't love a good fairytale.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Good or bad?

Prefer him playing mid

not sure, hence the watch

 

[ShooterMcGavin8]

Lockliff playing JLT no Beams

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Because you have a plethora of options to trade those fwd/def rookies to if they break down. With witts (unless you're taking Ryder in the fwd line) you don't have the same options and will have to burn 2 trades to correct it.

Remember when all those people said BELLCHAMBERS! Bellchambers! What great value for my ruck! So much more money for elsewhere.

Boom, TBC spudded it, everyone was ******. There wasn't a rookie to trade down to and trading up meant culling a cow early etc.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Remember everyone that went with Giles R2 in 2012? that worked out pretty well and we still had 4 ruck spots back then!
Plus I am taking Ryder in the FWD line, so if he is a bust it's an easy fix.
Bellchambers was also a confirmed shittruck who couldn't stay on the field + almost 100k more than Witts.

Did you get burnt by Bellchambers?

 

[Fooler]

how is JOM a shit pick?

Brad crouch of 2017

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Remember everyone that went with Giles R2 in 2012? that worked out pretty well and we still had 4 ruck spots back then!
Plus I am taking Ryder in the FWD line, so if he is a bust it's an easy fix.
Bellchambers was also a confirmed shittruck who couldn't stay on the field + almost 100k more than Witts.

Did you get burnt by Bellchambers?

i think he did

Ruck wins: Giles, Blicavs
Ruck losses: Bellchambers

 

[toxic]

Because you have a plethora of options to trade those fwd/def rookies to if they break down. With witts (unless you're taking Ryder in the fwd line) you don't have the same options and will have to burn 2 trades to correct it.

Remember when all those people said BELLCHAMBERS! Bellchambers! What great value for my ruck! So much more money for elsewhere.

Boom, TBC spudded it, everyone was ******. There wasn't a rookie to trade down to and trading up meant culling a cow early etc.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Its not but TBC was injury prone iirc, witts is not

 

[Seymour Skinner]

training with defenders as the play maker off half back.

watch this space

I saw that on Twitter the other day, no a huge fan of that move, I've taken HH out for Vlas anyways but I think HH can still be a good pick.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Its not but TBC was injury prone iirc, witts is not

TBC has played 79 games in 8 seasons.

18 his max is 2013, 8 and 10 the next 2 years

injury prone, HELL YEAH

 

[Flandersss]

TBC has played 79 games in 8 seasons.

18 his max is 2013, 8 and 10 the next 2 years

injury prone, HELL YEAH

Don't know why I picked him but man that was a putrid decision

Wrecked my whole SC year

 

[stevebbb]

ROFL so people aren't going to take Witts because they got burnt by Belltrashcan a couple years ago

More Witts for me then

 

[Flandersss]

ROFL so people aren't going to take Witts because they got burnt by Belltrashcan a couple years ago

More Witts for me then

Backing in Stef to get back to 110+ avg

It's a risk but I'll back him in

 

[CrozaN]

Backing in Stef to get back to 110+ avg

It's a risk but I'll back him in

I recon Stef will dominate this year too