Roast The AFL aren't taking concussion and head trauma seriously enough. Lalor/Ginbey incident.

[Muddiemoose]

No issue with the suspension in isolation but Geeze the AFL are once again making themselves look like a amateur organisation with its inconsistency

 

[sante]

Because after the Curtin incident, the AFL sent a warning out to the clubs.

Okay that makes sense then.

 

[Off Tap]

The AFL must've listened to the feedback from the Richmond supporters during the pre-season in handing down 3 weeks to Mansell today.

Tigers supporters must be happy. Surely?

 

[thistimeforsure]

Same as what Ginbey should have got and maybe this one doesn’t happen

Useless campaigners

 

[hawkman]

Think there is a big difference between Ginbey's and Mansell's. This one is way more dangerous by pushing a player into the path of the leading forward and deserving of weeks while Ginbey's one I still don't think is worthy of a suspension

 

[MisterMarcus]

No issue with the suspension in isolation but Geeze the AFL are once again making themselves look like a amateur organisation with its inconsistency

If there truly has been a "we're gonna crack down on this now" notification sent out to clubs.....then sure it's inconsistent, but nobody can say they weren't warned.

 

[bzparkes]

Same as what Ginbey should have got and maybe this one doesn’t happen

Useless campaigners

They deemed Ginbey was looking at the ball, same with Curtin.

Mansell wasn't looking at the ball at all when he elected to push, he was looking at the oncoming players, so the only intention he could've possibly had was to push the Saints player into them.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Think there is a big difference between Ginbey's and Mansell's. This one is way more dangerous by pushing a player into the path of the leading forward and deserving of weeks while Ginbey's one I still don't think is worthy of a suspension

Yep Ginbey’s was less dangerous, only caused a concussion & broken jaw.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

They deemed Ginbey was looking at the ball, same with Curtin.

Mansell wasn't looking at the ball at all when he elected to push, he was looking at the oncoming players, so the only intention he could've possibly had was to push the Saints player into them.

Did you know Neil Balme was looking at the ball before he king hit Southby & Waite in the 1973 Grand Final?

What a stupid test that would be.

 

[hawkman]

Yep Ginbey’s was less dangerous, only caused a concussion & broken jaw.

Lalor was unlucky but pushing someone into the oncoming traffic is worse than players coming back as usually the speed is higher

 

[bzparkes]

Did you know Neil Balme was looking at the ball before he king hit Southby & Waite in the 1973 Grand Final?

What a stupid test that would be.

Irrelevant, those were the explanations given.

You can sook about it all you want but Mansell clearly elected to push O'Connell into Lynch, because he wasn't looking at the ball when he gave the shove.

This is despite clubs being warned just a couple of weeks ago that there'd be repercussions if players continued to do this.

 

[Acinath]

No issue with the suspension in isolation but Geeze the AFL are once again making themselves look like a amateur organisation with its inconsistency

This is my issue with it. If clubs have been warned and this is the first, fair enough. But I’d like to see what happens from here.

Can’t say I’m confident.

 

[jannissary]

No issue with the suspension in isolation but Geeze the AFL are once again making themselves look like a amateur organisation with its inconsistency

afl house hardly cares about the game, they’re more concerned about the money

 

[STPer18]

Happened with Hawkins in 2017 getting suspended for a jumper punch after Cotchin got let off a couple of weeks prior. AFL crackdown midseason isn't anything new - Richmond supporters deserves applause for bringing this issue to air.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Irrelevant, those were the explanations given.

You can sook about it all you want but Mansell clearly elected to push O'Connell into Lynch, because he wasn't looking at the ball when he gave the shove.

This is despite clubs being warned just a couple of weeks ago that there'd be repercussions if players continued to do this.

You think this one is more suspendable than the Ginbey incident simply because in the interim the AFL chose to warn clubs they will enforce the rules they CHOSE not to enforce in the Ginbey case?

And you don’t see how that is not the result of a very very unsound judicial system within the game?

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Lalor was unlucky but pushing someone into the oncoming traffic is worse than players coming back as usually the speed is higher

You think the Lalor collision was at lesser speed than the one Mansell got reported for?

 

[bzparkes]

You think this one is more suspendable than the Ginbey incident simply because in the interim the AFL chose to warn clubs they will enforce the rules they CHOSE not to enforce in the Ginbey case?

And you don’t see how that is not the result of a very very unsound judicial system within the game?

Obviously.

After the Curtin incident the AFL warned clubs they'd start penalising these now, because there was no rule against if before, which you should know very well after Balta pushed Newcombe into Day.

You lot wanted it ruled out, now it is.

What are you sooking about?

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Obviously.

After the Curtin incident the AFL warned clubs they'd start penalising these now, because there was no rule against if before, which you should know very well after Balta pushed Newcombe into Day.

You lot wanted it ruled out, now it is.

What are you sooking about?

We wanted Ginbey to be charged for rough conduct.

He would have gone to the Tribunal and several concussion incidents that have occurred since may have been avoided.

The rules haven’t changed. So why wasn’t Ginbey charged?

 

[Muddiemoose]

If there truly has been a "we're gonna crack down on this now" notification sent out to clubs.....then sure it's inconsistent, but nobody can say they weren't warned.

Still highlights the inability for the AFL to withstand external pressure and just fold to external noise

They could of decided to clamp down on the 2nd incident but decided to wait until the 3rd

They are spineless in their conviction to back themselves in on the calls they make

 

[bzparkes]

We wanted Ginbey to be charged for rough conduct.

He would have gone to the Tribunal and several concussive incidents that have occurred since may have been avoided.

The rules haven’t changed. So why wasn’t Ginbey charged?

Because it wasn't deemed rough conduct, duh.

Just because you wanted him charged for it, doesn't mean it actually was rough conduct.

Fairly simple enough to understand, I'd have thought. I've even given you the explanation a few posts back, as well as telling you the AFL sent a warning to the clubs after the Curtin incident that they'd start cracking down on players doing it.

You got your wish, Mansell has a 3 match ban for intentionally shoving a player into oncoming traffic.

If they'd punished Balta appropriately for it when he broke Will Day's collarbone, then I have no doubt they would've punished both Ginbey and Curtin. Since they deemed Balta's action fine(an intentional shove into a player), they couldn't exactly go an punish Ginbey and Curtin now, could they? Especially when they themselves stated they believed both players had eyes only for the ball, which Mansell and Balta did not.

But since those 2 incidents, there's been enough noise over the action, so they warned the clubs.

Clearly Richmond didn't get the memo.

 

[Outtatym]

Well done to the AFL for listening to the Richmond supporters outrage and learning from it

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Because it wasn't deemed rough conduct, duh.

Just because you wanted him charged for it, doesn't mean it actually was rough conduct.

Fairly simple enough to understand, I'd have thought. I've even given you the explanation a few posts back, as well as telling you the AFL sent a warning to the clubs after the Curtin incident that they'd start cracking down on players doing it.

You got your wish, Mansell has a 3 match ban for intentionally shoving a player into oncoming traffic.

If they'd punished Balta appropriately for it when he broke Will Day's collarbone, then I have no doubt they would've punished both Ginbey and Curtin. Since they deemed Balta's action fine(an intentional shove into a player), they couldn't exactly go an punish Ginbey and Curtin now, could they? Especially when they themselves stated they believed both players had eyes only for the ball, which Mansell and Balta did not.

But since those 2 incidents, there's been enough noise over the action, so they warned the clubs.

Clearly Richmond didn't get the memo.

Just utter crap your whole post.

 

[bzparkes]

Just utter crap your whole post.

Lol, you got your wish and players are now getting punished for it.

Or was it always about the player and not the action?

 

[Rich01]

If they'd punished Balta appropriately for it when he broke Will Day's collarbone, then I have no doubt they would've punished both Ginbey and Curtin. Since they deemed Balta's action fine(an intentional shove into a player), they couldn't exactly go an punish Ginbey and Curtin now, could they? Especially when they themselves stated they believed both players had eyes only for the ball, which Mansell and Balta did not.

When did Balta do this?

 

[bzparkes]

When did Balta do this?

Never mind, it was Hopper.

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