Roast The AFL aren't taking concussion and head trauma seriously enough. Lalor/Ginbey incident.

[LukeParkerno1]

Oh well, we live with the decision. And when a player from the Eagles (or other clubs) gets injured in a similar manner I don't want to hear any whining because the MRO didn't think it worthy of any penalty. The standard for 2025 has now been set.

There won't be whining as it's not worth a suspension/report and never should be. Accidents in football occur, it's the way it is with a contact sport sometimes. The MRO made the appropriate ruling which is good to see. What is important now is Lalor get s back and he will as quickly as possible he won't miss many games if any at all.

 

[BF Tiger]

There won't be whining as it's not worth a suspension/report and never should be. Accidents in football occur, it's the way it is with a contact sport sometimes. The MRO made the appropriate ruling which is good to see. What is important now is Lalor get s back and he will as quickly as possible he won't miss many games if any at all.

What do you mean no whining? There’s already been whining re: Hopper and Riewoldt.

 

[BF Tiger]

Barrass broke his back from Riewoldt tunneling and Richmond players have form for pushing players into others and injuring them, yet here we are with Richmond supporters stinking up the thread the moment it happens to one of their own.

The Ginbey decision only further justifies the Riewoldt decision. Thanks for playing.

 

[bzparkes]

The Ginbey decision only further justifies the Riewoldt decision. Thanks for playing.

Cool, so you have no problem with the Ginbey decision then?

What about the Hopper one?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What do you mean no whining? There’s already been whining re: Hopper and Riewoldt.

Only as some of your supporters seemed to have no issue with Hopper yet in the same sentence wanted Gibney gone. The right decision was made on both. Both were footy accidents it happens.

 

[Grockadoc]

The only thing I hate about what Ginbey did, besides the injury to Lalor is, he didn't need to do it. Brock was always in best position to take a mark and was already jumping when Ginbey pushed him. You cannot argue that Ginbey was contestong the mark given he was so far behind the contest at the time the ball waa marked. Lalor wasn't going to make the contest either.

All the push would have done is have the potential to cause injury. Lalor got one. Brock is lucky he didn't get one either as the push could have potentially changed how he landed.

 

[BF Tiger]

Only as some of your supporters seemed to have no issue with Hopper yet in the same sentence wanted Gibney gone. The right decision was made on both. Both were footy accidents it happens.

So you agree that they are whining.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So you agree that they are whining.

Richmond fans are for sure, most others have said there's nothing to see here, it's a footy match where injuries occur, that's all it is. Richmond fans have no issue with Cotchin playing in a GF, or Hopper taking out Newcombe. There's so many footy incidents that cause injury, you can't rule on all of them you'd have 1000 blokes suspended every week.

 

[BF Tiger]

Cool, so you have no problem with the Ginbey decision then?

What about the Hopper one?

As i have stated I think Ginbey should have had a case to answer.

As I have also stated the difference between Ginbey and Hopper is that one led to a brain injury and the other didn't, and therein lies the difference. Mind you if Hopper had received a week or two I would not have argued with it. But I can't see Hopper's opponent potentially having chronic depression/mood swings/suicidal thoughts a decade or two from now because of the cumulative effects of collarbone injuries.

 

[bzparkes]

So you agree that they are whining.

Who started this thread?

Oh, that's right, a hypocritical Richmond supporter, who's blatantly ignored worse incidents from his own team to soapbox an accidental incident and frame Ginbey as a 'Dog'.

Stunning lack of awareness.

 

[Obeanie1]

It is legal to knee somebody in the head in a marking contest. So players at least know to expect it as a possibility when in marking contests.

It is not legal to push a player in a marking contest, much less in the back when he is running at speed into oncoming traffic, so the player in Lalor's position would not expect this as one of the things he needs to guard against. Which is why the incident should have been reported imo.

it is 100% legal to push a player in a marking contest.

Just not directly in the back. Or over the shoulder.

Players expect to be pushed or bodied off the line of the ball in every contest.

If you don't get that then that's your problem.

Hundreds of examples of players being l pushed sideways and bodied out of play.

You are basically saying players contesting a mark don't expect contact? Which is plainly incorrect.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

This happens many times a game in every game. If we are only going to ever talk about the outcome when someone is injured that makes no sense.

It is legal to knee somebody in the head in a marking contest. So players at least know to expect it as a possibility when in marking contests.

It is not legal to push a player in a marking contest, much less in the back when he is running at speed into oncoming traffic, so the player in Lalor's position would not expect this as one of the things he needs to guard against. Which is why the incident should have been reported imo.

A player is pushed in a marking contest almost every single marking contest. it is an unfortunate outcome for the Richmond player, this same thing happens many times per game. To eradicate it then we would need to make pushing a reportable offence and not just a free kick.

 

[Obeanie1]

As i have stated I think Ginbey should have had a case to answer.

As I have also stated the difference between Ginbey and Hopper is that one led to a brain injury and the other didn't, and therein lies the difference. Mind you if Hopper had received a week or two I would not have argued with it. But I can't see Hopper's opponent potentially having chronic depression/mood swings/suicidal thoughts a decade or two from now because of the cumulative effects of collarbone injuries.

Who had a brain injury?

 

[BF Tiger]

Richmond fans are for sure, most others have said there's nothing to see here, it's a footy match where injuries occur, that's all it is. Richmond fans have no issue with Cotchin playing in a GF, or Hopper taking out Newcombe. There's so many footy incidents that cause injury, you can't rule on all of them you'd have 1000 blokes suspended every week.

Bringing up Cotchin playing in a GF from eight years ago from an incident that no-one is certain actually caused Shiel's(?) concussion is not the gotcha you think it is. Was Adam Goodes still sliding into opponents around that time?

Times have changed.

 

[BF Tiger]

Who had a brain injury?

Lalor did. What do you think concussion is?

If we'd known all along that you didn't know what a concussion was this thread wouldn't be at 35 pages.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Mind you if Hopper had received a week or two I would not have argued with it.

 

[Obeanie1]

Who started this thread?

Oh, that's right, a hypocritical Richmond supporter, who's blatantly ignored worse incidents from his own team to soapbox an accidental incident and frame Ginbey as a 'Dog'.

Stunning lack of awareness.

He spends most of his time in Bay 13

AP just loves causing a stir.

This time he has egg on face as a result.

 

[Obeanie1]

How would you go getting concussion and a break in the jaw?
It's not a trifling matter. I doubt he plays round 1.

Go do some research.

Break v fracture.

They are not the same thing.

Fancy you using the more dramatic word which actually doesn't describe the injury correctly.

If you need any work Trump is hiring people like you to run the country. Truth and accuracy are not a requirement.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Bringing up Cotchin playing in a GF from eight years ago from an incident that no-one is certain actually caused Shiel's(?) concussion is not the gotcha you think it is. Was Adam Goodes still sliding into opponents around that time?

Times have changed.

It's the same thing, Richmond fans are only having a good old meltdown as it's one of their players and the no1 pick, you wouldn't even care if it were McIntosh or something.

Hopper one is more recent and all of your supporters were saying that was fine, and by the way they are RIGHT. Similar with this one, there's nothing to see other than a bloke being unfortunately injured that's all.

 

[VicBased]

As i have stated I think Ginbey should have had a case to answer.

As I have also stated the difference between Ginbey and Hopper is that one led to a brain injury and the other didn't, and therein lies the difference. Mind you if Hopper had received a week or two I would not have argued with it. But I can't see Hopper's opponent potentially having chronic depression/mood swings/suicidal thoughts a decade or two from now because of the cumulative effects of collarbone injuries.

The one thing I have learnt on this thread is that Richmond supporters are prone to mass exaggeration.
Ladies, do not believe these supporters when they say they are well endowed.
They keep confusing brain injury/concussion etc with a guy who never was unconscious and walked off the field without support and will probably front up in rd1.
Head knocks are something that just about every kid in Australia has experienced.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Go do some research.

Break v fracture.

They are not the same thing.

Fancy you using the more dramatic word which actually doesn't describe the injury correctly.

If you need any work Trump is hiring people like you to run the country. Truth and accuracy are not a requirement.

Ok so just a minor injury lol

 

[Farang83150]

Who started this thread?

Oh, that's right, a hypocritical Richmond supporter, who's blatantly ignored worse incidents from his own team to soapbox an accidental incident and frame Ginbey as a 'Dog'.

Stunning lack of awareness.

Not that stunning really.

 

[Farang83150]

Bringing up Cotchin playing in a GF from eight years ago from an incident that no-one is certain actually caused Shiel's(?) concussion is not the gotcha you think it is. Was Adam Goodes still sliding into opponents around that time?

Times have changed.

Pure gold.
It's not a problem because it wasn't yesterday

 

[bzparkes]

Bringing up Cotchin playing in a GF from eight years ago from an incident that no-one is certain actually caused Shiel's(?) concussion is not the gotcha you think it is.

Yes, it is.

 

[Scythe]

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