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We did have a really bad injury list towards the end of last year, even Doc’s first game was the final, with a healthyish list I would expect us to make the 8
I agree that we should make it but I think it's overly simplistic to just assume he's hating on us rather than he's actually using reason.
 
Figjam didn't have us making it in 2023 either, probably cognitive bias based on history
Had it not been for an odd turn of form (as in having to win our last 10 or whatever it was), he'd have been right.
 

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That’s surprising, I have always thought he was pretty fair in his analysis when it comes to us. Mick McGuane has always seemed like the bias Collingwood idiot of the two.
 
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The odd turn of form was the first half of the season, not the second half.

Yep, talent in the side would suggest that we never should have had a 1-8 stretch. And that the second half of the seasons 9 game winning streak was something that our list was fully capable of achieving.
 
Just saw David King bagging our back line using -
2024 scores against, despite our 2025 backline looking nothing like our 2024 (Silvagni and Haynes coming in for a start)
McGovern missing too many games (played 80% of games in last 2 years)
Saad not being able to defend 1 on 1 (which has been proven wrong time and again)

Nothing like living in the past
 
Just saw David King bagging our back line using -
2024 scores against, despite our 2025 backline looking nothing like our 2024 (Silvagni and Haynes coming in for a start)
McGovern missing too many games (played 80% of games in last 2 years)
Saad not being able to defend 1 on 1 (which has been proven wrong time and again)

Nothing like living in the past

Then he says stupid things like - “I don’t know where the improvement is going to come from”.

🤣
 
The odd turn of form was the first half of the season, not the second half.
Revisiting history there but I'm really not sure that's accurate with this side.

Hard to remember such a Jekyll and Hyde team over my time watching footy. Played some incredibly good football that last 2 years but also some terrible football.

Perhaps this year will answer the question whether we're actually good or actually not so good.
 
Just saw David King bagging our back line using -
2024 scores against, despite our 2025 backline looking nothing like our 2024 (Silvagni and Haynes coming in for a start)
McGovern missing too many games (played 80% of games in last 2 years)
Saad not being able to defend 1 on 1 (which has been proven wrong time and again)

Nothing like living in the past
Using points against is such surface level analysis from King. In 2023 we were in the top 5 for fewest points conceded with largely the same defensive lineup as 2024. It's almost as if the issues in 2024 had to do with areas outside of our backline. Like maybe going from the #1 side at defending stoppage to the third worst side at it in a year...?
 

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Not many media scribes are picking us for the 8 I actually like that as last year we had a high expectation but I feel this year there’s not as much hype.


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Yep, me too.
Fly under the radar for as long as possible.
Although that radar is going to start going off, when we're 4 and 0 after smashing Ninthwood [emoji41]

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Revisiting history there but I'm really not sure that's accurate with this side.

Hard to remember such a Jekyll and Hyde team over my time watching footy. Played some incredibly good football that last 2 years but also some terrible football.

Perhaps this year will answer the question whether we're actually good or actually not so good.

I'm actually just as interested in the level of consistency, allows for a better understanding of what's needed beyond this year
 

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