The Liberal Party - How long? - Part 2

[Johnny Bananas]

Alan Kohler goes whack!

The Liberals will have to choose between the Nationals and the climate

It does not look feasible for a political party to succeed in Australia without a credible commitment to reducing carbon emissions.

www.abc.net.au

Good article. He's particularly correct in this section, and it looks prescient in light of today's news.

 

[1990crow]

This is too funny.

 

[dogs105]

This is too funny.

I just read the story on news.com.au , and made the mistake of reading the comments.

General consensus seems to be that the "Liberals have lurched too far to the left"... **** a duck!

 

[QuietB]

Wtf happens now?

What was already going to happen - both are irrelevant for the next three years.

 

[swingdog]

The government can pretty much ignore them for the next 3 years.

So should the media.

 

[spinynorman]

Given Ley’s majority from last week’s ballot won’t be there by July I suspect she’s even more of a dead woman walking.

That said, she should call their bluff and take it to the election. The Nationals need the Liberals more than vice versa, they should try to wipe out the yokels.

 

[swingdog]

Given Ley’s majority from last week’s ballot won’t be there by July I suspect she’s even more of a dead woman walking.

That said, she should call their bluff and take it to the election. The Nationals need the Liberals more than vice versa, they should try to wipe out the yokels.

I don’t think they think they do.

The Nats are about holding their seats and representing their mining funders.

They’d rather be ideologically pure, in safe seats and out of government.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Libs hold 18 aeats

Nationals hold 9

Queensland LNP holds 16 and those members will have to decide if they’re Liberal, National or “QLD LNP”

This “split” is them both giving up on the next election, then they’ll probably re-join in the lead up to the 2031 election if they think they have a chance to win.

You can’t actually campaign to win an election nationally and be the next government if you’re no hope of winning it. They’ll have to rejoin at some stage.

 

[Rotayjay]

The Coalition has officially dissolved, at least for now. This is a momentous day. Momentously bad for the right of politics. How long before they come crawling back together?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

It's not like Barnaby to pull out.

 

[kickazz]

like father, like son. another lib spruiker. always get a kick out of these shouting at the moon nuffies.

What a moron.

If we had FPTP then people would vote differently.

 

[Nelso]

 

[kickazz]

Does this make the Liberal Party a minor party now?

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Does this make the Liberal Party a minor party now?

In every state except Queensland.

 

[kickazz]

Thinking long term, does this open the door a little for the Teals to form an actual party and possibly form a coalition with the Liberal Party?

 

[Vindicater]

Thinking long term, does this open the door a little for the Teals to form an actual party and possibly form a coalition with the Liberal Party?

Yes and that would be the way to a proper centre right party.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Thinking long term, does this open the door a little for the Teals to form an actual party and possibly form a coalition with the Liberal Party?

I don’t see it at all.

The Liberal Party is purely about vested interests and the Teals actually have a few principles that wouldn’t be compatible at all. All the teals are backed financially by SHAC, who is locked into climate change action. The Liberal Party is locked into fossil fuels.

The only party that is really compatible with the Liberals is the Nationals, who are also owned by vested interests.

This all just seems a bit performative. I thought they might stay apart for one election cycle, as they won’t win it anyway, but reading Littleproud’s comments in full, they’re already talking about re-joining before the next election.

They won’t go into a campaign without each other because their whole approach is to present as an alternate government. Neither can do that alone.

They’ll be back in Coalition in about two years.

 

[Mofra]

"If you can't govern yourself you can't govern the country" we were told.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

"If you can't govern yourself you can't govern the country" we were told.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that headline from Murdoch news of course

 

[Dazzler9]

David Littleproud just discarded the most successful political union in Australian history

Where Barnaby Joyce, Michael McCormack, Warren Truss and almost every one of their predecessors succeeded for the best past of a century, David Littleproud has failed.

www.abc.net.au

 

[lloydbraun]

Albanese reigns for 20 years

 

[Hank Scorpion]

I don’t see it at all.

The Liberal Party is purely about vested interests and the Teals actually have a few principles that wouldn’t be compatible at all. All the teals are backed financially by SHAC, who is locked into climate change action. The Liberal Party is locked into fossil fuels.

The only party that is really compatible with the Liberals is the Nationals, who are also owned by vested interests.

This all just seems a bit performative. I thought they might stay apart for one election cycle, as they won’t win it anyway, but reading Littleproud’s comments in full, they’re already talking about re-joining before the next election.

They won’t go into a campaign without each other because their whole approach is to present as an alternate government. Neither can do that alone.

They’ll be back in Coalition in about two years.

Thia is my take too. They're both waiting to see who blinks first, but I reckon the Libs come crawling back once the weight of donors, right-wing media and branch members demand they unite against Labor, without regard that the Nats are a millstone around their neck long-term.

But in the meantime: FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!

 

[Hojuman]

Technically the govt.has 93 seats and the " official " oppostion 18 ?

 

[Gough]

Thia is my take too. They're both waiting to see who blinks first, but I reckon the Libs come crawling back once the weight of donors, right-wing media and branch members demand they unite against Labor, without regard that the Nats are a millstone around their neck long-term.

But in the meantime: FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!

What sort of impression would that take leading into the next election? The two parties split and wrangle for two and a half years before trying to put on a united front just for the sake of winning government, the ads write themselves.

 

[QuietB]

Technically the govt.has 93 seats and the " official " oppostion 18 ?

I think it is actually 26 with 8 Queenslanders sitting in the Liberal Party room.

Still getting close to WA irrelevance though.