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The Liberal Party - How long? - Part 2

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I predicted a split 3 years ago after they lost the next election at the 2022 election.
I mused that it seemed inevitable, given the two directions they were being pulled in and the fact it could at a longshot result in a viable electoral strategy to return to say a minority government.

But a Dutton leadership seemed to nix that, and I still can't quite parse if this was inherent contradictions within the party, stupidity, or some folks trying to be too clever by half. Say Libs chading Teals unencumbered, and Nationals being free to court One Nation type votes.

We will see I suppose.
 
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No, the 'stupid move' is why the lazy media need to go to the war criminal John Winston Howard for a sound bite ever friggin time the Federal Liberals do anything.

The guy is 85 years old, hasn't been in Parliament for 18 years and for all we know is still looking for the WMDs that never existed in the first place that he used to justify the slaughter of over 100 thousand civilians in Iraq along with George W Bush's coalition of the willing.

The day the Liberals have the balls to walk away from everything the dog whistling racist war criminal stood for is the day they rejoin the 21st Century and become relevant to the current and future generations of Australians.
 
I just read the story on news.com.au , and made the mistake of reading the comments.

General consensus seems to be that the "Liberals have lurched too far to the left"... **** a duck!
I wonder what happens to Newscorp's business model when all these bigoted old people finally kick the bucket. Do they simply market to the biases of Gen X as the new generation of old people, or will they collapse from a lack of audience because people aren't gullible enough to buy their bilge anymore?
 
I wonder what happens to Newscorp's business model when all these bigoted old people finally kick the bucket. Do they simply market to the biases of Gen X as the new generation of old people, or will they collapse from a lack of audience because people aren't gullible enough to buy their bilge anymore?
The Australian has been a money sinkhole for years.

Other mastheads get by only due to non-news related properties.

Even with the odd taxpayer subsidy and trying to siphon sports away from FTA, the empire is becoming a very very expensive influence pedaling operation.
 
The Australian has been a money sinkhole for years.

Other mastheads get by only due to non-news related properties.

Even with the odd taxpayer subsidy and trying to siphon sports away from FTA, the empire is becoming a very very expensive influence pedaling operation.
With minimal influence as the election showed
 
You're shifting the goalposts in the middle of the comment from capital cities to cities in general. Capital cities only account for 67% of the population.


And schneebly111 was right, rural areas do receive more welfare and taxpayer funds per capita than the cities. Being lucky enough to sit on top of mineral resources gives a misleading perception of how productive rural and regional economies are because little of the mining wealth gets reinvested into local communities, particularly in WA where's there's so much FIFO. It's just creamed off by multinationals.

Gun theft is a huge issue. So whilst I agree in principle, limiting the amount of guns an individual can lawfully own limits illicit supply.

Without being too specific, I have close family who served, who hunt, who lived and worked ruraly.

At some point they've all chosen to downsize completely voluntarily and the current limits wouldn't impinge on either lifestyle/sporting interests, or their ability to do their jobs. You could easily get by as a farmer and sports hunter with a small and large(r) calibre rifle, plus two shotguns. A 12 guage for larger game, and you have a couple of options for water fowl. The cartridges you use are as important as the gun.

When I was a youngin I did a little shooting as to teach me how to handle a firearm and just manage pests on a property.

Ya don't cycle through a whole armory mate and most blokes "out bush" stick to their favourites, unless they are really in to the collecting/hobbyist side of things. Not that common and pretty ****in expensive.
As I mentioned in a previous post, I shoot with farmers who have their old rifles for extras like me to come shoot.

If they have a bunch of pigs ripping shit up they ring around and get a crew to go out, much better chance of killing a decent percentage with ten blokes than two.
 

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Nine Fairfax trying to cut their lunch now, but with boofheads like Bevo and Chip, they just come across as frenzied lightweight yappers.

There's a real Young Liberals self sucking stink about the joint.
The reality is, nobody cares about the Liberals
 
As I mentioned in a previous post, I shoot with farmers who have their old rifles for extras like me to come shoot.

If they have a bunch of pigs ripping shit up they ring around and get a crew to go out, much better chance of killing a decent percentage with ten blokes than two.
That's what we used to do, and for feral dogs too, when they'd get into the sheep paddocks.

Nobody was short on firearms? Most blokes want to use their own guns, and you'll still have a surplus yourself.

Like I said, there are people I know who have voluntarily downsized well before these changes. One, who lives in the South West of WA most of the time specifically cited fears over gun theft. And yeah, he moaned about the changes which won't affect him at all, but truth be told, he doesn't really care. The majority are common sense. As for caps on ownership, I just don't see the case for them negatively impacting the vast vast majority of WA gun owners.
 
I wonder what happens to Newscorp's business model when all these bigoted old people finally kick the bucket. Do they simply market to the biases of Gen X as the new generation of old people, or will they collapse from a lack of audience because people aren't gullible enough to buy their bilge anymore?
The Australian has been a money sinkhole for years.

Other mastheads get by only due to non-news related properties.

Even with the odd taxpayer subsidy and trying to siphon sports away from FTA, the empire is becoming a very very expensive influence pedaling operation.
When Uncle Rup is gone the entire PR arm of the Liberal Party collapses.

Then the Liberals are truly screwed.
 
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No, the 'stupid move' is why the lazy media need to go to the war criminal John Winston Howard for a sound bite ever friggin time the Federal Liberals do anything.

The guy is 85 years old, hasn't been in Parliament for 18 years and for all we know is still looking for the WMDs that never existed in the first place that he used to justify the slaughter of over 100 thousand civilians in Iraq along with George W Bush's coalition of the willing.

The day the Liberals have the balls to walk away from everything the dog whistling racist war criminal stood for is the day they rejoin the 21st Century and become relevant to the current and future generations of Australians.
Hear hear
 
I wonder what happens to Newscorp's business model when all these bigoted old people finally kick the bucket. Do they simply market to the biases of Gen X as the new generation of old people, or will they collapse from a lack of audience because people aren't gullible enough to buy their bilge anymore?
They'll pivot to incels and NSN types
 

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When Uncle Rup is gone the entire PR arm of the Liberal Party collapses.

Then the Liberals are truly screwed.
Can't the decrepit ****er just die already then? I'm glad a fine human like David Attenbrough still lives, but I'd sacrifice him if it meant Murdoch went to the grave with him.

They'll pivot to incels and NSN types
Not enough of them to pay the bills.
 
The Australian has been a money sinkhole for years.

Other mastheads get by only due to non-news related properties.

Even with the odd taxpayer subsidy and trying to siphon sports away from FTA, the empire is becoming a very very expensive influence pedaling operation.
This is partially true....

I know it's off topic in the society, politics and religion board...

Pay TV was good for a while... But the bubble was eventually gonna burst.

Back in 2013 when AFL expanded to 18 teams and A-league soccer had 10 sides with the NSW and Victorian sides being the money maker's, what was the price of monthly subscription for basic channels and sports? $50 a month?

Not bad of a deal at the time. It's 2025 now, would justify paying $100-$120 a month for basic Foxtel channels and sports?

What's the population of Australia now? 25 or 26 or 27 million?

Say if we still had 25 million. How much subscribers did Rupert Murdoch's Foxtel empire needs a month to be profitable? 1 million? 2 million? 5 million?

You can extract so much money from a small population. If Australia had a population like a large European country like England, France or Germany... We are talking about 50, 60, 70 or 80 million, then more money would be possible.
 
Given Ley’s majority from last week’s ballot won’t be there by July I suspect she’s even more of a dead woman walking.

That said, she should call their bluff and take it to the election. The Nationals need the Liberals more than vice versa, they should try to wipe out the yokels.
The coalition of liberals and national spilt or parting ways would be good.

Nationals could end up in a similar fate like the democrats. That means fade into obscurity.

Liberals being beaten badly in the 2025 Federal election it's gonna last a while. Liberals need to do drastic changes to improve in the next election
 
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No, the 'stupid move' is why the lazy media need to go to the war criminal John Winston Howard for a sound bite ever friggin time the Federal Liberals do anything.

The guy is 85 years old, hasn't been in Parliament for 18 years and for all we know is still looking for the WMDs that never existed in the first place that he used to justify the slaughter of over 100 thousand civilians in Iraq along with George W Bush's coalition of the willing.

The day the Liberals have the balls to walk away from everything the dog whistling racist war criminal stood for is the day they rejoin the 21st Century and become relevant to the current and future generations of Australians.
Nothing says modern party like the Rodent appearing on A Current Affair. The dozen people watching it must have been dazzled.
 

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