The Neil Craig Effect

[TerryWallet]

How potently negative is the Neil Craig effect on modern footballers and modern football clubs?

Adelaide plummetted amidst low player enthusism in his final 2 years. Tex Walker basically refused to play.

Melbourne totally flatlined amidst low player enthusiasm under the Neeld/Craig disaster.

Now Essendon are tumbling amidst low player enthusiasm this year compared to last year.

Adelaide and Melbourne enthusiasm returned immediately upon his departure.

He reeks of being 2 generations ago who modern players probably quietly think to themselves "wtf"

 

[tangolikelama]

 

[RuFiO]

 

[final fight]

and i thought he was a good coach……….

 

[Pipefitter]

He's not the coach? The dees looked a lot happier under him than neeld though that's not saying much.

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

definitely a stink starting to follow him around.

 

[wahawk]

you might be able to lay the blame on him for Adelaide as he was head coach
but i don't think you can for Melb/Ess

 

[KAYNE]

Harsh on him. From all reports players loved him and he changed his coaching style a lot so the players enjoyed more freedom.

 

[Zerg]

How potently negative is the Neil Craig effect on modern footballers and modern football clubs?

Adelaide plummetted amidst low player enthusism in his final 2 years. Tex Walker basically refused to play.

Melbourne totally flatlined amidst low player enthusiasm under the Neeld/Craig disaster.

Now Essendon are tumbling amidst low player enthusiasm this year compared to last year.

Adelaide and Melbourne enthusiasm returned immediately upon his departure.

He reeks of being 2 generations ago who modern players probably quietly think to themselves "wtf"

I will say the same thing i said to your fellow troll in another thread. (how coincidental he also supports Carlton)

A whole sub forum dedicated to trolling Essendon still not enough for you?

 

[Dandy_GO]

As an Adelaide fan who wanted Craigy moved on a lot earlier than he was, I believe you're being extremely unfair.

 

[TerryWallet]

I will say the same thing i said to your fellow troll in another thread. (how coincidental he also supports Carlton)

A whole sub forum dedicated to trolling Essendon still not enough for you?

Paranoid much?

OP was more about his tenure at Adelaide and Melbourne and the turn around since he was marched from both.

I've long been a Craig critic.

I don't think the brand of bullshit that guys like him and Terry Wallace employ has worked for a long time in footy.

 

[TerryWallet]

you might be able to lay the blame on him for Adelaide as he was head coach
but i don't think you can for Melb/Ess

Why not?

He has been Director of coaching at both Clubs.

IMO John Barker has had a negative effect on 3 successive Clubs, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Carlton. And he's only a line Coach.

Craig has been Senior Coach and Director of Coaching at 3 successive Clubs that the players are not responding at. And the 2 that he left have immediately turned it around.

 

[Cyclonus]

He had a pretty good coaching record at the Crows. Obviously 2010-11 were terrible due to players going on longer than they could have and the youth development being pretty poor, but before that they played finals most years under him. Perhaps similar to Ross Lyon at St. Kilda, he chased the premiership without a backup plan for the years to come, but unlike Ross and the Saints, never got to the Grand Final. 2005-06 were good years though. Actually, so was 2009.

Can't say much for his tenure elsewhere.

 

[Papa G]

Mumbles Craig is a shit coach. Couldn't get a side containing McLeod, Ricutto, Goodwin, Edwards and Hart to a GF. Bum Coach.

 

[TerryWallet]

He had a pretty good coaching record at the Crows. Obviously 2010-11 were terrible due to players going on longer than they could have and the youth development being pretty poor, but before that they played finals most years under him. Perhaps similar to Ross Lyon at St. Kilda, he chased the premiership without a backup plan for the years to come, but unlike Ross and the Saints, never got to the Grand Final. 2005-06 were good years though. Actually, so was 2009.

Can't say much for his tenure elsewhere.

I agree that he went OK in his early years.

But i reckon his style of player handling demonstrably hasn't worked at his last 3 Clubs.

I think we went thru an era say mid 90's to mid 00's where spin worked(in football. politics etc) , But i reckon that style then became anathema to motivating people.

I just think the Terry Wallace's, the Neil Craig's are a bygone style. The directness style of a Hinkley, Lyon seems more respected.

Neil Craig has got nothing out of a footballer for about 6 years over 3 Clubs.

 

[NickoST]

Never trust a man with two first names.

 

[Brenton Davy]

Never trust a man with two first names.

By that logic, Taylor Walker will be the greatest coach of all time ...

 

[Danger in Texas]

Never trust a man with two first names.

My avatar goes alright...

But yes, the OP is looking too deep into it. He seemed to bring out the best in players during his early Adelaide years, and it seemed like it was more Neeld than anyone that did the damage at the Dees. Too early to call re: Essendon.

 

[Bluelegs]

It's his socks.

 

[daniel_4tw]

He's shit.

 

[power09]

http://thepricklyperch.com/blog/essendon-hire-neil-craig-to-boost-scapegoat-stocks/

 

[ep2018]

It's like people forget how he took a bottom 4 team to back to back preliminary finals.

And tbh if Biglands didn't do his knee in the 2006 preliminary final they'd have played and probably won the flag in 2006.

 

[ClashGurnseyRage]

i remember watching the crows get belted by Melbourne, which basically forced him to resign, then saw him in the melbourne coaches box as the crows belted Melbourne by some horrendous margin, i remember thinking "lmao"

 

[jko'neal]

To be fair, Essendon are kicking sideways and backwards a lot. So OP is onto something:/

 

[a_fighting_fury]

Never trust a man with two first names.

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