Play Nice The NM Devil's Chessboard Thread - Part II

[DesertRoo]

This is the only way to stop the war.

Turkey restricts exports of 54 products to Israel until Gaza ceasefire

Trade Ministry says decision to remain in place until Israel stops attacks and allows adequate aid into Gaza.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[DesertRoo]

Interesting read, shift in the last few years from informing the public to telling them how to think.

I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust.

Uri Berliner, a veteran at the public radio institution, says the network lost its way when it started telling listeners how to think.

www.thefp.com

 

[The Warlord]

 

[andana]

Australia's foreign minister has suggested the country could recognise Palestinian statehood, to increase momentum towards peace.

However Hamas could have no role in its governance, Penny Wong said.

Both Australia's opposition and the Zionist Federation of Australia say such a move would be premature.

Canberra has long said that recognition of a Palestinian nation could only come as part of a two-state solution brokered with Israel.

But Ms Wong's comments echo a speech by UK Foreign Secretary David Cameron earlier this year, in which he hinted the UK too could recognise Palestinian statehood without the support of Israel.

The Australian government has in recent months increasingly voiced concerns about the war against Hamas in Gaza - including after an Australian aid worker was killed alongside six others during an Israeli air strike.

In a speech on Tuesday night, Ms Wong said a two-state solution - where Israelis and Palestinians lived side by side in separate countries - was "the only hope to break the endless cycle of violence".

 

[ferball]

Is this real?

 

[The Warlord]

Is this real?

Yeah he's over there meeting Trump etc to try and gerry up more money and guns for Zelensky.

Apparently the Speaker Johnson (who holds the keys) wouldn't even meet him lol.

 

[The Warlord]

 

[ferball]

Yeah he's over there meeting Trump etc to try and gerry up more money and guns for Zelensky.

Apparently the Speaker Johnson (who holds the keys) wouldn't even meet him lol.

That's embarrassing for him but he is a ****wit so ha ha.

But seriously, those comments are just insane. It supports everything we cop shit for bringing up. The US/UK are using Ukraine to get to Russia.

 

[giantroo]

 

[rickety]

A good investment? I am deadset tired of these shiney @rsed suit wearing, silver spooned f@cking campaigners doing 4 fifths of f*ck all as long as they're seen to tow the party line and line their own pockets along the way. Backslapping w@nkers who've more than likely never had to do a decent days graft in their entitled lives. They have no care. And we dish up Penny f#cking Wong!! Get f@cked, shove your wars up your @rse. Free kick carlton.

 

[The Warlord]

Terrifying and yet further proof the US is a dangerous rogue actor

 

[The Warlord]

That's embarrassing for him but he is a ******* so ha ha.

But seriously, those comments are just insane. It supports everything we cop s**t for bringing up. The US/UK are using Ukraine to get to Russia.

Yeah you can see why the pro Ukraine/US types have to travel to the land of make believe to justify their position

 

[DesertRoo]

A good investment? I am deadset tired of these shiney @rsed suit wearing, silver spooned f@cking campaigners doing 4 fifths of f*ck all as long as they're seen to tow the party line and line their own pockets along the way. Backslapping w@nkers who've more than likely never had to do a decent days graft in their entitled lives. They have no care. And we dish up Penny f#cking Wong!! Get f@cked, shove your wars up your @rse. Free kick carlton.

It’s like I’m sitting at the Oscar’s watching the most beautiful acceptance speech.

 

[rickety]

It’s like I’m sitting at the Oscar’s watching the most beautiful acceptance speech.

Started thinking I should've popped it into the Grumpy old thread :-D Anyway, got a day, or a few off after dog bite yesterday and surgery last night. Can't imagine I'll need to leave the Grumpy Old for a bit :-D

 

[The Warlord]

I remember travelling through South Armagh ... "Bandit Country" ... when these things were still up.

 

[The Warlord]

I honestly have no idea what the Israeli "strategy" is here.

 

[ferball]

I honestly have no idea what the Israeli "strategy" is here.

They don't have a strategy i reckon. I think the whole thing is just out of control.

Think about it, they have an AI doing target selection with basically no oversight. Its just an ongoing process with no other meaning beyond generating targets then liquidating them.

 

[The Warlord]

They don't have a strategy i reckon. I think the whole thing is just out of control.

Think about it, they have an AI doing target selection with basically no oversight. Its just an ongoing process with no other meaning beyond generating targets then liquidating them.

Yeah, it feels purely like revenge to me.

Yes, we've lost, yes we're retreating from Gaza, the Americans have finally yanks thed chain on us, so **** you we will kill your kids

 

[rickety]

I honestly have no idea what the Israeli "strategy" is here.

 

[ferball]

Yeah, it feels purely like revenge to me.

Yes, we've lost, yes we're retreating from Gaza, the Americans have finally yanks thed chain on us, so * you we will kill your kids

This has been happening since the start, not just to Hamas operatives and their entire families but even to reporters who don't propagate Israeli propaganda.

 

[ferball]

While I think revenge is driving this situation I also think its out of control because no one really has any outcome planned other than "eliminate Hamas" - which is just a nebulous concept anyway.

 

[bengrina]

Interesting to see that the idea of a Palestinian state is being mentioned by western politicians.

On a side note I see they have banned Russian Olympian’s from competing under their national flag. Assuming they will also be doing this for Israel given their genocide of Palestinians?

 

[Chadwiko]

Just a timely reminder that, although Israel are unquestionably committing atrocities that cannot be excused under any circumstances, Hamas are also bloody awful and are prolonging the conflict through ineptitude, malice, and deceit.

 

[The Warlord]

The Imagine Dragons have spoken ... time to reassess our positions.

 

[The Warlord]

Just a timely reminder that, although Israel are unquestionably committing atrocities that cannot be excused under any circumstances, Hamas are also bloody awful and are prolonging the conflict through ineptitude, malice, and deceit.




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Hamas are prolonging the conflict because they're winning.

There seems to be an idea that they should just lay down their arms so Western liberals don't have to feel bad about seeing the results of them fighting the occupation on their screens every day.