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After doing a bit of travel the recent few years, it really hammered home how dull Perth is (in relation to my interests of course). Look, if you like a laid-back vibe and the beach, knock yourself out, it's got that. If you want a dynamic city, that caters to lot's of different types, has a great sense-of-history, cultural monuments and museums, cheap food and clothes, and lot's of exciting things to do year-round…you're probably better off looking elsewhere.

Also, our architecture is just the absolute worst. Blank, artless and dull. It lacks character.

In other words, it's average. It's not the 'worst city evaaaa' like some crap on about…but just relentlessly average.
 

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Have only been there once, for the '10 elimination final.

Got dropped off in the CBD at about 11pm Friday and there was absolutely no one around. Walked through town to the hotel on the river and the only place with any sort of congregation was the KFC, which was kicking off out the front with pissed up 14/15 year olds having a barney.

Went to Cottesloe beach on the Saturday night after the match and it was very quiet, everyone was saying sunday was the popular day for that spot. My mate was single and was pretty excited when we met a drunk group of women who took us to Northbridge which I had been warned off by some dockers supporters earlier in the night. True enough it was an absolute shit hole. But amusing to watch all the fights I guess.

I left the next day feeling as though I had seen pretty much the worst Perth had to offer, and that a bit of research would be necessary the next time.
 
All you need to say now is 'can't wait to visit Bali' and 'the coffee is so much better in Melbourne' to round out the trifecta of Shit Perth People Say.
Mate I lived there for 2 years in 08/09. I'll agree best beaches in Australia (like how they've kept development down basically around them) and in summer they're great...but winter the whole place is basically in hibernation.
I lived in Leederville-basically inner city. And Bloody hell I couldn't barely find a supermarket that opened past 5:30pm. My small country town in Victoria had 2 and they both opened later than that.
It was the way that everything there seems to be endlessly debated "Wait Awhile" is very apt. Every single little decision (ie. daylight savings, trading hours, new stadium) just seems to go from one committee to another until it just winds up moot. I found it a very closed culture as well. Was very hard to break into a social scene there, to be fair I was FIFO and I did make a few Perth friends; but to me wasn't a very welcoming place. I went to London the 2 years after and the contrast was amazing.
I did go back to Perth in 2012 for a visit and to me seemed to have improved in some areas. It's however a very parochial state, seemed like every news item had to have a WA bent (don't really experience this in Victoria).
 
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Perth is rad.

Apart from the fact it's expensive, too spread out and full of dickheads.

It really needs a big fence around it though to act as a development perimeter. The train goes to Butler now. Where the **** is Butler? It's the ****ing Joondalup line, that was plenty far enough. It didn't really need to go to Currambine, and it certainly doesn't need to keep going so we can make up new places like Clarkson and Butler 500 miles from anywhere.
 
Perth is a good city.

It's extremely pretty, the beaches are nice considering a couple of million people live there, there are some nice little suburbs (Leedy, Subi) and Freo is as good as any Balmain or Fitzroy.

It has some shit suburbs but so does every city. Rockingham and Joondalup are just Frankston and a bigger St Albans or a smaller Penrith.

The people who hang shit on WA are the kind of people who also hate Adelaide but think the Gold Coast is hell sick. And they probably also live in a cripplingly depressing, shithole suburb themselves.

I found Perth to lack just a few things, and my lifestyle now is better suited to Melbs. I like being able to go to the footy with three minutes notice and pay $250 for a season of games, as opposed to $50 a game and being lucky to find a seat with just one mate. I like being able to walk home from a night out, with plenty more options; plenty of different enough areas within a half hour walking distance (good looking going "hmm, city?" so casually when you're drinking in a decent suburb in Perth). More bands come more often to Melbourne and I feel like there's a proximity or something that makes it easy to live in a smaller area and spend less cash getting around.

Saying that, I'm seriously looking forward to spending my summer in Freo, hanging out with actual sea breezes and proper beaches. And I do think you need to get away from places to realise what unique benefits they have and how much you miss its peccadilloes and nuances.
 
One particularly big problem is that nothing is built around Joondalup and Rockingham.

Everyone still heads into Perth in the morning, and away from Perth in evening, no matter how far away they live.

There's going to be some serious problems in the future if our satellite cities don't become proper satellite cities.
 

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It really needs a big fence around it though to act as a development perimeter. The train goes to Butler now. Where the **** is Butler? It's the ******* Joondalup line, that was plenty far enough. It didn't really need to go to Currambine, and it certainly doesn't need to keep going so we can make up new places like Clarkson and Butler 500 miles from anywhere.

It does need to go that far and IMO it will eventually go to Yanchep.
 
Nah, I agree with Scotland. The urban sprawl of Perth is getting out of hand and unsustainable.

Especially when you see the suburb designs.

Joondalup City was bad enough with its pathetic nod to British living, terrace housing and dual access housing with lanes at the back, which are already dark and shady dens for the petty crims etc of the area.

But further north in Butler, and beyond, with homes on 400sqm or less, with no gardens and stacked on top of each other to maximise developers profits. Absolute shitholes.

They are ghetto's of the future in the making when the current owners children reach teenagehood. Joondalup itself is rapidly approaching this.
 
Nah, I agree with Scotland. The urban sprawl of Perth is getting out of hand and unsustainable.

I agree on that point but with the continual expansion of the metro area the train line will eventually go to Yanchep.
 
The only way the line goes to Yanchep is if the population of Yanchep increases to justify the need for it.

The only way the population of Yanchep inreases is with more low density housing development.

The only way the development goes ahead is if the rail/road infrastructure goes in.

Etc. It's a vicious cycle which needs to be broken. If you want to live in Yanchep then move there and ****ing stay there. We need development within 20km from the city so that people that work in the city can live somewhere vaguely near it.
 
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