Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Eddie Dingle]

Haha this band is ******* hilarious, thanks to whoever it was who pointed them out yesterday

You need to find a copy of when TISM hosted Rage.

Funny shit.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Not unique, but how come, from all available first hand reports, many other places in the top echelon of consumption, can handle it better than us?

The other issue here is that from a social perspective, lots of people who used to binge drink switching over to the likes of cannabis and MDMA would probably make Hindley Street on a Saturday night a lot safer and less volatile.

 

[Portia]

I think you're absolutely kidding yourself. It's akin to all the people who were going to come out of the woodwork to follow the Southern Power if we'd ever been forcibly rebranded. I don't believe at all that these people exist in a significant number.

Weird metaphor. If you want a better metaphor about this sort of availabilty increase, its the difference in Port Adelaide support after moving from the SANFL (restricted and localised to certain areas) to the AFL (broader high-profile consumption).

But really, it's not a particularly relevant argument, because basically everywhere else in the world where this has been tried, drug use and drug related issues have decreased.

Read this and try again: http://www.rmhidta.org/html/August 2014 Legalization of MJ in Colorado the Impact.pdf

Crime increases, increased use by kids, lots of stats that make a lie of what you're saying

 

[Concussion]

they have finally made a movie about me

 

[Doctor Feel]

they have finally made a movie about me

Simple Jack?

 

[Magus]

Watch Fargo instead. Season 1 or 2

Loved season 1. I'm gonna get on season 2 now.

 

[Contested Marx]

Loved season 1. I'm gonna get on season 2 now.

Cool. Let me know when you have actualized.

 

[edgie]

The other issue here is that from a social perspective, lots of people who used to binge drink switching over to the likes of cannabis and MDMA would probably make Hindley Street on a Saturday night a lot safer and less volatile.

But didn't you just say anyone who wants those things is already on them? So there won't be a drastic change?

 

[StuMan]

 

[raman]

Read this and try again: http://www.rmhidta.org/html/August 2014 Legalization of MJ in Colorado the Impact.pdf

Crime increases, increased use by kids, lots of stats that make a lie of what you're saying

www.rmhidta.org

hmmmmmmm

 

[El_Scorcho]

But didn't you just say anyone who wants those things is already on them? So there won't be a drastic change?

Yeah, absolutely. The point I was making is that alcohol is and always will be a bigger problem.

Weird metaphor. If you want a better metaphor about this sort of availabilty increase, its the difference in Port Adelaide support after moving from the SANFL (restricted and localised to certain areas) to the AFL (broader high-profile consumption).

Read this and try again: http://www.rmhidta.org/html/August 2014 Legalization of MJ in Colorado the Impact.pdf

Crime increases, increased use by kids, lots of stats that make a lie of what you're saying

Yeah, that's not an impartial report and it's claims have been debunked over and over again.

Not a lot has changed about the frequency of cannabis use in Colorado. People are definitely more willing to admit they smoke cannabis, but that's about it.

 

[Doctor Feel]

My brother in law is a builder/renovator, I was having some work done on my house by him and I caught him smoking weed in his car during the working day.

Sacked him.

 

[edgie]

My brother in law is a builder/renovator, I was having some work done on my house by him and I caught him smoking weed in his car during the working day.

Sacked him.

Good job. Would've done the exact same if it were alcohol as well I imagine?

 

[Doctor Feel]

Good job. Would've done the exact same if it were alcohol as well I imagine?

He hit the cans dead on the end of the day. My fridge was stacked with beer which I strongly suspect was purchased on his business card and charged to me.

He's a total campaigner.

 

[Portia]

Yeah, that's not an impartial report

Can you link one then please?

 

[Macca19]

Its quite possible to overdose or have a bad reaction even on quality party drugs. If you don't hydrate, you can be stuffed - water is legal, why does this ever happen? Its because its not like people are suddenly going to treat how they take drugs more safely if they're chemist-controlled medications, is it.

You are significantly more likely to die from water intoxication as opposed to dehydration whilst on party drugs. Its the big mistake people make if they get freaked out or think they've taken something dodgy is to drink a shit-ton of water thinking it will clear out the system but its a big mistake and puts you at higher risk than if you forget to drink anything and end up dehydrated.

I'm with El_Scorcho on this one. Decriminalisation and regulation is the way to go. The LD for MDMA is very high and as far as im aware, it is incredibly rare if not close to impossible to "overdose" from MDMA ingestion. Its the other stuff that comes with buying street drugs that cause issues, or those that sell PMA pills masquerading as MDMA.

Which leads me to another point, I don't understand why people who want to take potentially dangerous substances don't go to any length to find out what is in what they are taking. There are numerous testing products and testing websites that allow people that want to go down the path of taking things like ecstasy to be well informed and confident in what they are taking, without risking death by doing so.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Which leads me to another point, I don't understand why people who want to take potentially dangerous substances don't go to any length to find out what is in what they are taking. There are numerous testing products and testing websites that allow people that want to go down the path of taking things like ecstasy to be well informed and confident in what they are taking, without risking death by doing so.

The normal distribution curve. They think they are on the far right side of the curve but they are on the far left side of the curve when it come to IQ, ability to handle substances and income stream.

 

[Del80659]

'people' generally don't care what they are consuming, buying into, believing in as long as it's easy and they don't have much to think about, that's why 'people' are such experts on politics and other peoples sporting teams and what have you, because they read something about it and decided to run their mouth and realised that works. if they hear an ecstasy pill will "make the music better" and "they're decriminalised now" why wouldn't they do it? all that rat shit must be dealt with with an iron fist by every normal human who knows what they do to your mind and body. we absolutely don't want pills and shit getting to more people no matter which way we look at it. i object to cannabis being lumped in with these chemicals though, that is a whole different conversation.

 

[Jim Dixon]

Watching people in British Columbia smoke "BC Bud" every day which seems to be the custom here... the thing about these people is that they're so angry and nasty when they're waiting for their toke. Some of my co-workers go mental in the hour before lunch.

It's not a winning thing to do.

 

[edgie]

So at the very least, we all agree cannabis shouldn't be prohibited, if nothing else.

 

[Kickpuncher]

Just a random thought but if alcohol were still illegal today wouldn't it be just as bad as some illicit drugs out there today? Without the knowledge and safer regulation there would still be 'backyard makers' not knowing how strong and deadly they're making their booze?

 

[I Dont Care]

He hit the cans dead on the end of the day. My fridge was stacked with beer which I strongly suspect was purchased on his business card and charged to me.

He's a total campaigner.

Did you drink them in front of him after saying, "my fridge...no touchy"?

 

[Dylan8]

How many times to does it need stating that decrimalisation does not increase the availability or the usage?

 

[Portia]

Just a random thought but if alcohol were still illegal today wouldn't it be just as bad as some illicit drugs out there today? Without the knowledge and safer regulation there would still be 'backyard makers' not knowing how strong and deadly they're making their booze?

Oh yeah definitely there would be dodgy as shit alcohol

 

[Doctor Feel]

HNNNNNNGGGGHHHHH