Third tall forward

[Suma Magic]

You always here about the third tall forward. But there seems inconsistency about how this is defined. This is an important topic and definitely main board worthy...

If, for example, the Eagles lined up like this (Lycett in the ruck and Vardy playing forward/ruck):

HF: small Darling small
FF: small Kennedy Vardy

Is Darling the second or third tall in this scenario?

 

[LeverPuller]

You always here about the third tall forward. But there seems inconsistency about how this is defined. This is an important topic and definitely main board worthy...

If, for example, the Eagles lined up like this (Lycett in the ruck and Vardy playing forward/ruck):

HF: small Darling small
FF: small Kennedy Vardy

Is Darling the second or third tall in this scenario?

Darling 2nd, Vardy 3rd as it's a rotational role.

3rd is usually either a rotational or a fast medium type. Your two primaries are typically your CHF/FF, the others are the query.

 

[Suma Magic]

Darling 2nd, Vardy 3rd as it's a rotational role.

3rd is usually either a rotational or a fast medium type. Your two primaries are typically your CHF/FF, the others are the query.

So the forward/ruck (or the forward who gives the chop-out) is always the third tall?

If I added Stringer to that hypothetical forward line on a flank would he be the "4th tall"?

 

[SterlingArcher]

I've always thought it of as who is the main target, who is the 2nd target etc. Probably need inside 50 target stats to use this correctly.

Don't know if that's the accepted use, but how I've always thought of it.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

I always thought a third tall was a type of player e.g. Gunston or Stringer, rather than a position.

Ideally you'd have two key forwards and then a third tall, however some clubs don't have a second key forward so end up with one or more third talls.

 

[WCE_phil]

I personally believe you should only have 3 marking type forward line players playing each game. Whether they are or aren't key position height. In regards to first tall and so on i think generally it goes by whoever is the better player our of ff and chf is the 'first' tall, the person playing the other role is the second tall and the marking player playing from the pocket is the third tall / third marking player.

 

[Suma Magic]

I always thought a third tall was a type of player e.g. Gunston or Stringer, rather than a position.

Ideally you'd have two key forwards and then a third tall, however some clubs don't have a second key forward so end up with one or more third talls.

Yeah I'd thought of it that way too.

But whether the forward/tuck counts as a tall is confusing.

Whenever people say "we need Darling to play as a third tall" confuses me, because we already have two other tall forwards.

 

[The Swert]

It's not an official term so it's open to interpretation and misuse.

If you had 3 permanent tall forwards, then I guess I would call the relief ruckman the 4th tall. But the team would be terribly unbalanced.

A few weeks ago Adelaide played Walker, Otten and Lynch plus Jenkins as the forward/ruck.
But Lynch played more mobile, not really as a key forward.

 

[Franc de Borges]

It's a type of player. Silvagni would be ours, for example, if we had a forward line.

 

[Tenilius]

Teams can have more than one tall forward?

 

[hutchy31]

Third tall? Having one or two functional ones would be a start.

As to the OP's point, I thought it was a player type - like someone else mentioned above. A marking forward but someone who's not massive and can crumb effectively as well, maybe even rotate through the midfield.

The dogs have two - Stringer and Crameri - but typically both have been asked to play second tall or even first because of our dearth of KPP stocks.

 

[Bardo State]

I guess there are two ways to think about it

Positionally: The third tall is the most dangerous marking player in your forwardline that typically won't get the attention of the oppositions primary 2 KPDs.

A player type: A lean, mobile marking forward that isn't true key position size but is a dangerous enough marking threat that it would be suicide to rotate a smallish player onto them in defense.

Given how dynamic positioning is in modern AFL, I'd probably stick with the second definition, as there hardly is such a thing as a traditional FF, CHF, FP, HFF anymore. Hawthorn are currently playing Roughead, O'Brien, Gunston and Schoenmakers who are primarily forwards but rotate through the wings and further up the ground. Is any one of them THE full forward or THE centre-half forward? Which one would that make the third tall? That probably just depends where the players happen to be situated on the ground at the time but it's very fluid and none of them truly stick to one 'position'.

 

[Bardo State]

Teams can have more than one tall forward?

We've got four in the 22 right now

 

[Bokonon_]

Teams can have more than one tall forward?

Seem to recall your guys pioneered the concept with Roach and Taylor?

 

[Del165198]

Teams can have more than one tall forward?

dixon
midget
manlet
tall defender
midget
manlet

seems to be working well for us. and by well i mean not at all.

 

[RUNVS]

In GWS that 3rd tall is Rory Lobb.

 

[BrutThough]

Tim Membrey is your classic third tall. He is 188cm but appears to taller than he is because he is such a strong mark. If you put a smaller guy on him, he will out mark them but if you put a big guy on him, he can get them if the ball goes to ground.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Tiger supporters conspicously absent from this thread.

I'll also see myself out...

 

[Milanista28]

Darling 2nd, Vardy 3rd as it's a rotational role.

3rd is usually either a rotational or a fast medium type. Your two primaries are typically your CHF/FF, the others are the query.

Joey, Hooker and Stewart as our talls, Joey is the one who rotates in the ruck, Would he be our 3rd tall forward?

 

[DaveLister]

The one that is played on by the opposition 3rd tall defender

 

[MF]

I always thought a third tall was a type of player e.g. Gunston or Stringer, rather than a position.

Ideally you'd have two key forwards and then a third tall, however some clubs don't have a second key forward so end up with one or more third talls.

This isn't getting confusing at all.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Mason Wood, Gunston, Membrey, Lynch (Adel.), Darling... These are the kinds of players I think of when someone mentions 3rd tall.

 

[MF]

I always considered the 3rd tall to be a guy who's not your FF or CHF, is reasonably tall (188+) and spends the majority of the game playing as a forward target. I never consider resting ruckmen to be 3rd talls unless they spend more time as a forward target than they do in the ruck. Not every team has them.

 

[MF]

You always here about the third tall forward. But there seems inconsistency about how this is defined. This is an important topic and definitely main board worthy...

If, for example, the Eagles lined up like this (Lycett in the ruck and Vardy playing forward/ruck):

HF: small Darling small
FF: small Kennedy Vardy

Is Darling the second or third tall in this scenario?

If Vardy plays more time as a forward than he does anywhere else I would consider him to be a 3rd tall, if not, I would say you don't have one.

 

[gavaniacono]

You always here about the third tall forward. But there seems inconsistency about how this is defined. This is an important topic and definitely main board worthy...

If, for example, the Eagles lined up like this (Lycett in the ruck and Vardy playing forward/ruck):

HF: small Darling small
FF: small Kennedy Vardy

Is Darling the second or third tall in this scenario?

The question has no meaning for RFC!