Throw partisanship aside - federal icac stat

[Present Not Past]

I didn't know a shitty little ICAC can change international tax laws and corporate governance arrangements.

You're correct. A Federal ICAC will impact most upon Liberal members.
You can bet your house that if it would affect Labor members more Morrison would not be blocking the idea in the House of Reps.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

You're correct. A Federal ICAC will impact most upon Liberal members.
You can bet your house that if it would affect Labor members more Morrison would not be blocking the idea in the House of Reps.

And the ALP wouldn't support in the Senate.

I despise practically everything about the modern (wow, is that the wrong word) coalition parties, but let's not pretend the ALP are any less hypocritical on issues like this. They only support it because they have very few people still in parliament who were able to abuse ministerial powers.

 

[Present Not Past]

And the ALP wouldn't support in the Senate.

I despise practically everything about the modern (wow, is that the wrong word) coalition parties, but let's not pretend the ALP are any less hypocritical on issues like this. They only support it because they have very few people still in parliament who were able to abuse ministerial powers.

Wrong. Once passed it won't be revoked. You are just being duplicitious.

 

[kranky al]

Seriously think there needs to be a one issue party started for this

 

[Rob R]

And the ALP wouldn't support in the Senate.

I despise practically everything about the modern (wow, is that the wrong word) coalition parties, but let's not pretend the ALP are any less hypocritical on issues like this. They only support it because they have very few people still in parliament who were able to abuse ministerial powers.

We can be sure that whilst the ALP scores points for this given the LNP is currently in power, the bill that finally passes will ensure that nothing gets in the way of our LNP, ALP and GRN pollies cashing in.

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[Rob R]

All true, but not in the likely scope of an ICAC - which would presumably look at corruption, cronyism, etc in the public sector.

Unless your argumernt is high officials within the ATO have been bought off by the multinationals, its basically function of lax rules around the private sector (partly thgrough double-dipping tax agreements, legal but immoral accountancy practices, and so forth) and not any breaches of law, codes of conduct, in the public sector.

Those funds would not be recovered through an ICAC equivalent.

Contracts the government has with the private sector should be another matter. Contracts awarded to the likes of Serco could be under a lot of scrutiny. That billions could be saved in this space is not out of the question. Defence alone could probably get the Budget into surplus by getting value for money from contractors - althoug, again that is largley not ICAC territory (some of it possibly is).

We could get and keep the budget in surplus by smashing the Canberra centric approach of the public service where public servants working in Cbr are paid at a much higher level than other public servants doing the same job and the way the public service keeps sneaking more jobs to Canberra where they are more out of touch with Australia, are more exposed to dodgy lobbyists and work in luxurious expensive frequently renovated offices.

Look at Defence's annual reports, the Minister directs that Defence make better use of its non Canberra workforce and focus on outputs yet since then Canberra is the only state where Defences workforce is growing.

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[kranky al]

Can you spare a minute to help brent allen-hauser?

Federal ICAC now

chng.it

Please sign

 

[kranky al]

Halleliuia

Senate passes Greens bill to create federal Icac

Labor, Centre Alliance and Jacqui Lambie join Greens in voting for federal anti-corruption commission, but bill won’t pass House

www.theguardian.com

 

[Balls In]

Who watches the watchdog then, huh?

But yeah I'd like to see misuse of taxpayer funds by dodgy politicians punished like it was in the good old days. There's a LOT of pollies of all persuasions whose heads would look good detached in a wicker basket.

 

[kranky al]

But who watches the watchdog huh?

But yeah I'd like to see misuse of taxpayer funds by dodgy politicians punished like it was in the good old days. There a LOT of pollies of all persuasions whose heads would look good detached in a wicker basket.

Id like to see politicians of all stripes worried theres a listening device around and that bribery will result in prosecutions.

we may possibly get some decisions made with the country benefiting rather than whoever slips them wedge

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Won't be getting one until at least 2022.

..along with your payrise.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Oh look, more Nationals with something to hide.

Canavan delayed releasing documents about coal lobby interactions before resigning

Freedom of information bid then rendered void when Nationals senator quit ministerial post

www.theguardian.com

 

[Present Not Past]

The only prosecutions Morrison is interested in is against public servants leaking info about his secretive government to the press.

 

[Gough]

You'd think a party with nothing to hide wouldn't be trying to gag debate on establishing an ICAC.

 

[NSWCROW]

Grinzz are teh worssssssst but

uNauStRaLiaN !!!!

 

[NSWCROW]

******* mutts

 

[kranky al]

Oh but the layburr did this once so its ok for us to do this forever

- unknown bootlicker, colorised 2020

 

[Power Raid]

******* mutts

the key bit in that is the word "a" vs "the"

 

[NSWCROW]

the key bit in that is the word "a" vs "the"

Wedge ?

 

[Power Raid]

Wedge ?

The greens would like to claim the glory of the commission but the legislation to create the commission is being drafted by the Libs. This has been through a process of steering committees and legal tests.

This is the legislation that will be presented to the house for voting.

So there is no delay, it is a simple rejection of the greens legislation. If the greens want to have their legislation enacted, they will have to start generating policies that are more appealing than just the 10% fringe.

 

[NSWCROW]

The greens would like to claim the glory of the commission but the legislation to create the commission is being drafted by the Libs. This has been through a process of steering committees and legal tests.

This is the legislation that will be presented to the house for voting.

So there is no delay, it is a simple rejection of the greens legislation. If the greens want to have their legislation enacted, they will have to start generating policies that are more appealing than just the 10% fringe.

So trying to wedge the perennial wedgers

 

[Gough]

The greens would like to claim the glory of the commission but the legislation to create the commission is being drafted by the Libs. This has been through a process of steering committees and legal tests.

This is the legislation that will be presented to the house for voting.

So there is no delay, it is a simple rejection of the greens legislation. If the greens want to have their legislation enacted, they will have to start generating policies that are more appealing than just the 10% fringe.

Nationals get 2% of the vote and we have to put up with their s**t show.

 

[TimmeT]

Nationals get 2% of the vote and we have to put up with their s**t show.

Incorrect.

 

[Bestbird]

The greens would like to claim the glory of the commission but the legislation to create the commission is being drafted by the Libs. This has been through a process of steering committees and legal tests.

This is the legislation that will be presented to the house for voting.

So there is no delay, it is a simple rejection of the greens legislation. If the greens want to have their legislation enacted, they will have to start generating policies that are more appealing than just the 10% fringe.

Morrison government announces new federal anti-corruption commission

Scott Morrison announces new Commonwealth Integrity Commission in response to calls for a federal Icac

www.theguardian.com

Is this the one from over a year ago

Scott Morrison will move to establish a federal anti-corruption commission, less than a month after dismissing the proposal as a “fringe issue”.
But the Coalition’s proposed integrity commission will operate outside of public view, with the investigative body to make no public findings, hold no public hearings, and refer any recommendations directly to prosecutors, who will make the ultimate decision on whether or not to go forward with a case.
A former commissioner of the New South Wales independent commission against corruption described the omission of public hearings as “very weak”.

 

[kranky al]

Morrison government announces new federal anti-corruption commission

Scott Morrison announces new Commonwealth Integrity Commission in response to calls for a federal Icac

www.theguardian.com

Is this the one from over a year ago

Scott Morrison will move to establish a federal anti-corruption commission, less than a month after dismissing the proposal as a “fringe issue”.
But the Coalition’s proposed integrity commission will operate outside of public view, with the investigative body to make no public findings, hold no public hearings, and refer any recommendations directly to prosecutors, who will make the ultimate decision on whether or not to go forward with a case.
A former commissioner of the New South Wales independent commission against corruption described the omission of public hearings as “very weak”.

Sounds like a retirement village for lawyers and coppers that have given the government of the day good service.

here take a lazy 1/2 mill a year to do fa