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Obviously one of the muppets I was referring to.This is a joke right? I was assaulted 50 times when I was last in a night club.
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Obviously one of the muppets I was referring to.This is a joke right? I was assaulted 50 times when I was last in a night club.
At a quick read not sure that censoring the word actually helps!He's as dumb as it gets. Like, an actually [redacted] individual.
i hate Toby Greene. Worm of a player. But this "umpires are untouchable" belief is also rubbish.
A lot of MRO punishments now are based on what damage was caused to an opponent, hence why Dangerfield got 3 weeks. So what damage did Toby do to Stevic? Id like to hear what Stevic thinks the appropriate punishment should be, or how aggrieved he feels about the contact.
It is such a strange encounter it is still impossible on the 100th watching to try to understand what Greene was doing, Stevic was equally nonplussed at the time but by his own clear admission had no issue and didn't find it aggressive, and he is the one that knows 100x better than the rest of us the context. He didn't report then and I get the impression he still wouldn't now.It is not a trivial act, the context and intentions are blatantly clear. He is arguing with an ump, who is wearing bright fluoro colours and deliberately chooses to bump his shoulder. It's clearly a "fu** off" action of which you would have seen or done plenty of time on a football field - to other players.
You can not let that sh*t stand. The game desperately needs umpires at all levels more than it needs any financial impact from Greene playing in a finals series
At a quick read not sure that censoring the word actually helps!
i hate Toby Greene. Worm of a player. But this "umpires are untouchable" belief is also rubbish.PLAYERCARDSTART4Toby Greene
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A lot of MRO punishments now are based on what damage was caused to an opponent, hence why Dangerfield got 3 weeks. So what damage did Toby do to Stevic? Id like to hear what Stevic thinks the appropriate punishment should be, or how aggrieved he feels about the contact.
A hefty fine in the order of $50,000 would be enough of a deterrent and set a good precedent. Anyway we live in a world where people get their jollies off seing others get cancelled so im not surprised by the sentiment in here. Greene has done far worse in his career particularly those boots to the face in marking contests where he should get rubbed out for months. This umpire brush is a reflection of how soft our society is in 2021.
i hate Toby Greene. Worm of a player. But this "umpires are untouchable" belief is also rubbish.
A lot of MRO punishments now are based on what damage was caused to an opponent, hence why Dangerfield got 3 weeks. So what damage did Toby do to Stevic? Id like to hear what Stevic thinks the appropriate punishment should be, or how aggrieved he feels about the contact.
A hefty fine in the order of $50,000 would be enough of a deterrent and set a good precedent. Anyway we live in a world where people get their jollies off seing others get cancelled so im not surprised by the sentiment in here. Greene has done far worse in his career particularly those boots to the face in marking contests where he should get rubbed out for months. This umpire brush is a reflection of how soft our society is in 2021.
A three week suspension is a hefty penalty especially when it will include at least one final and possibly two or three finals.
I thought a heavy fine or a one week suspension would've been sufficient but with the media hysteria over it a multiple week penalty was inevitable.
What's hefty? $25,000? Chicken feed for Toby. What's the biggest financial penalty imposed on a player by the Tribunal?A three week suspension is a hefty penalty especially when it will include at least one final and possibly two or three finals.
I thought a heavy fine or a one week suspension would've been sufficient but with the media hysteria over it a multiple week penalty was inevitable.
Get a grip buddy. Were all allowed our opinions. I would have preferred Greene get a massive fine and see him play in finals. A huge financial penalty is just as effective punishment, but we still would be able to see one of the best players in the league do their thing. I hardly think Stevic is seeing a psychologist because Green brushed his shoulder.And this is why we can't have nice things. You call it soft. Try telling that to the next junior umpire who gets abused - verbally or physically - and intimidated out of the game by some f**kwit who thinks "Well if they can get away with it in the AFL then why can't I?"
Guaranteed you're one of the people that b!tches and moans about the quality of umpires in senior ranks.
Take a look in the mirror pal.
Not for repeat offender, TobyGet a grip buddy. Were all allowed our opinions. I would have preferred Greene get a massive fine and see him play in finals. A huge financial penalty is just as effective punishment, but we still would be able to see one of the best players in the league do their thing. I hardly think Stevic is seeing a psychologist because Green brushed his shoulder.
So make it 75k. 100k. Just let the man play in the finals. It was a brush of shoulders ffs.What's hefty? $25,000? Chicken feed for Toby. What's the biggest financial penalty imposed on a player by the Tribunal?
By Toby or the Tribunal?Cat’s kissed on the dick again:
Get a grip buddy. Were all allowed our opinions. I would have preferred Greene get a massive fine and see him play in finals. A huge financial penalty is just as effective punishment, but we still would be able to see one of the best players in the league do their thing. I hardly think Stevic is seeing a psychologist because Green brushed his shoulder.
deserved a penalty - sure. One that deters him and other players from ever doing the same - sure. But missing the rest of the finals is a joke.I would have preferred to see Greene play finals too. He's a magnificent player when switched on and he makes their whole club better.
Doesn't change the fact he did a dumb thing and deserved to miss games. It's a shame certainly, but sh*t happens.
Perhaps an odd week here and there may have made him pull his head in earlier... then againHard to argue he’s been hard done by, but I am amazed at how often he manages to get off …you’d think with his rap sheet he would be looking at a lengthy suspension for this incident
TOBY'S TRACK RECORD
Total: 22 charges
Suspended: Six times for eight total matches
Total fines: $29,350
2012: Made ineligible for the NAB AFL Rising Star after he was suspended for one match for an ugly bump on Brisbane veteran Jed Adcock.
2012: Fined $1200 for his role in a melee during Greater Western Sydney's clash with Melbourne.
2013: Cops a $1950 fine for making reckless contact with an umpire in a game against Gold Coast.
2014: Walked away with a one-match suspension for striking Adelaide midfielder Richard Douglas, with the offence classified as a level-three sanction.
2014: Fined another $1200 for engaging in a melee, this time against the Western Bulldogs.
2015: Hit with a $1500 fine for spitting in the direction of Richmond midfielder Anthony Miles.
2015: Another $1500 fine for engaging in a melee, this time against Fremantle.
2016: Fined $1000 for misconduct, having pushed Port Adelaide youngster Brendon Ah Chee into a fence.
2017: Hit with a $1000 misconduct fine in pre-season, having given Sam Wright a slap to the face late in the game.
2017: Fined $1000 for striking Port Adelaide midfielder Dan Houston, with the charge graded as low impact to the head.
2017: Hit with a two-match striking suspension after clipping Western Bulldogs midfielder Caleb Daniel with an extremely late spoil attempt.
2017: Forced to serve another two-match suspension after striking Richmond defender Alex Rance to the jaw with a jumper-punch.
2017: Controversially offered a $1500 misconduct fine for his flying kick to the face of Western Bulldogs forward Luke Dahlhaus in a marking contest.
2018: Fined $2500 for misconduct, having appeared to drop his knee into Sydney midfielder Isaac Heeney during an elimination final.
2018: Fined another $2500 for misconduct the very next week during a semi-final against Collingwood, where he was involved in a back-and-forth with midfielder Taylor Adams.
2019: Slapped with a $2000 fine for striking, having handed Melbourne midfielder Clayton Oliver a 'tummy tap' in an off-the-ball incident.
2019: Handed a $7500 fine for serious misconduct, having appeared to make contact with the face and hair of Western Bulldogs star Marcus Bontempelli during a lengthy scuffle.
2019: Suspended for one match after making unnecessary or unreasonable contact to the eye region of Brisbane gun Lachie Neale, forcing him to miss a preliminary final.
2020: Fined $1000 for elbowing Fremantle's Reece Conca to the midriff in an incident that took place some way off the ball.
2021: Handed a $2000 fine for a 'tummy tap' to the midriff of Carlton defender Nic Newman, after striking him in an off-the-ball incident.
2021: Suspended for one game, halved from two, after elbowing Geelong star Patrick Dangerfield to the throat while attempting a fend-off to escape a tackle.
2021: Referred directly to the Tribunal for making intentional contact with umpire Matt Stevic during an elimination final win over the Swans. The penalty is unknown.
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TOBY TROUBLE: 22 charges, six bans, nearly $30K in fines
A look at all of Toby Greene's 22 charges by the Match Reviewwww.afl.com.au
So an elite athlete with the reflexes of a wild dog can unerringly see a foot-long spheroid rapidly hurtling through space at him, but can’t see a six foot human in a fluoro shirt right in front of him?No fan of his but I believe him when he says it was an accident. End of the quarter and he was probably knackered and not paying attention.