Tom Boyd

[bird_man]

Slightly better than Boyd.

And on a million dollars less...

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Bulldogs fans are getting really worked up about the rest of the football world talking about Tom Boyd. If you don't like the criticism, I suggest you stick to your own board.

The truth is, the guy cost you equal to two high first round picks, when you could have ended up with Peter Wright as well as a Caleb Marchbank or Jake Lever.

The money he is on no doubt will have an impact on who you can bring into your club in the future.

No doubt he will improve as his career goes on, but we are yet to see any signs that he will become an elite forward of the competition.

Nice rant, Captain Hindsight.

About the "impact on who you can bring into the club", haven't you read the 17,001 posts explaining how the Dogs cap has been structured to cope with this into the future?

If you have, did you have trouble understanding it?

Or does the truth get in the way of a good story?

 

[GetDimmaBack]

And on a million dollars less...

Wow - you're the first one to mention this!

How come no-one else knew that?

Dogs fans will appreciate this breaking news...

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Your paying half of Griffens wage.
I dont see that as standing up for yourself.

Another one!

There have been a couple of million posts on how doing that was the best short term (read only way at the time) to get up to the minimum salary cap of 92.5%.

Sick of this sort of comment. Read up on the facts!

 

[captain cotch 9]

Another one!

There have been a couple of million posts on how doing that was the best short term (read only way at the time) to get up to the minimum salary cap of 92.5%.

Sick of this sort of comment. Read up on the facts!

Fair enough then
But still LOL at Boyds wage.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Another one!

There have been a couple of million posts on how doing that was the best short term (read only way at the time) to get up to the minimum salary cap of 92.5%.

Sick of this sort of comment. Read up on the facts!

You're having a bit of a 'mare in this thread, might be time for a break.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Fair enough then
But still LOL at Boyds wage.

LOL at Cotchin's wage.

Whatever he's getting.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

You're having a bit of a 'mare in this thread, might be time for a break.

Sure am, TD.

Stupidity and ignorance always get me going.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Sure am, TD.

Stupidity and ignorance always get me going.

Shhh, no tears, only Boyd now.

 

[Reptilia]

How relevant are the Bulldogs these days... LOVE IT!!! We just get talked about non stop!!

 

[bird_man]

Loving the melt downs from you GetDimmaBack

Yes, the fact that you could have had Wright and Lever is all hindsight, but it's still fact.

As for his salary being structured to cope with this in the future. Yes, every club does this with big contracts, pay more early or late to free up some money in other years. You will still be paying on average $1 million a year for a guy that looks unlikely to get to the elite level, it WILL have an affect on who you can bring into your club, whether you like it or not.

In fact just 9 months ago Jake Carlisle refused to meet with your club because you could not get near the offer that Carlton and St Kilda had on the table.

 

[Dogsman16]

Loving the melt downs from you GetDimmaBack

Yes, the fact that you could have had Wright and Lever is all hindsight, but it's still fact.

As for his salary being structured to cope with this in the future. Yes, every club does this with big contracts, pay more early or late to free up some money in other years. You will still be paying on average $1 million a year for a guy that looks unlikely to get to the elite level, it WILL have an affect on who you can bring into your club, whether you like it or not.

In fact just 9 months ago Jake Carlisle refused to meet with your club because you could not get near the offer that Carlton and St Kilda had on the table.

Just simply not true about not having enough money for Carlisle. Bev wasn't a fan of him. Also considering we are offering a bigger contract to Hurley than what Carlisle received from St Kilda it doesn't really fit your narrative.

 

[grouse mate]

Some embarrasingly childish posts in here. Like throwing up names of Carlisile and Cotchin who would be on smaller contracts and have actually performed at AFL level and proven they are worth good coin as some type of rebuttal is unbelievable.

 

[bird_man]

Just simply not true about not having enough money for Carlisle. Bev wasn't a fan of him. Also considering we are offering a bigger contract to Hurley than what Carlisle received from St Kilda it doesn't really fit your narrative.

Beveridge was very keen on Carlisle I think you'll find, he was very frustrated that Jale wouldn't even meet with the club. A few google searches will show you this.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Beveridge was very keen on Carlisle I think you'll find, he was very frustrated that Jale wouldn't even meet with the club. A few google searches will show you this.

Nah.

 

[Dogsman16]

Beveridge was very keen on Carlisle I think you'll find, he was very frustrated that Jale wouldn't even meet with the club. A few google searches will show you this.

Well we never even got to make an offer for Carlisle because Carlisle didn't want to talk to the club as instead of first meeting with the club he wanted to see what we would offer prior to a meeting with the club taking place.

Several clubs obviously had concern with Carlisle about things other than football. History shows we backed down because of this and not because of how much we could offer him but rather the process involved.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Beveridge was very keen on Carlisle I think you'll find, he was very frustrated that Jale wouldn't even meet with the club. A few google searches will show you this.

Carlisle is a rabid Dogs fan, I'd be very surprised if he wasn't prepared to meet the club if they wanted him to.

 

[NathanMX]

In that case, how has his performances been this year?

Does that make Crameri useless too then?

Hope both come back motivated and raring to go after so long out of the game. And preferably on fire, instead of drugs

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Carlisle is a rabid Dogs fan, I'd be very surprised if he wasn't prepared to meet the club if they wanted him to.

He had major personal issues. We were off him all year then, as a matter of process, we showed an interest in meeting him, just to make sure that decision was right. he wasn't interested.

 

[joop]

In that case, how has his performances been this year?

Probably better than Boyd still.

 

[The Brabazone]

Boyd is clearly not worth the money he is getting in 2016. Neither is Sam Reid, Tom Mitchell, Travis Cloke, Daisy Thomas, Nick Dal Santo and numerous others. Of all this list of overpaid footballers relative to their on-field output, only one of them is 20yo and has obvious scope for significant improvement. If this improvement doesn't come by the time he is 23yo (or at the very least trending in the right direction), I'll be the first to admit it has been a bust.

Tom Mitchell has had a great year... also has scope for significant improvement. Poor example.

 

[joop]

Anyway back on topic.
No Redpath this week will see Boyd play at full forward yes? Let's hope the delivery to him is decent enough.

 

[Sedat!]

Tom Mitchell has had a great year... also has scope for significant improvement. Poor example.

Overrated season - had some very good games but also some nondescript games. Not the season of player around the $700k a season mark. Is there much scope for improvement in him, seeing as he has been in the system for a number of years now, is a one-paced mid with questionable disposal and decision-making skills, and still sits behind the likes of Kennedy, Hanneberry and Jack as key mids for the Swans? Would he be able to carry his team's midfield (together with Hanneberry) when Kennedy and Jack finish up? Perhaps, but there's a lower ceiling of improvement than there is for Boyd - the challenge for Boyd is to actually improve which is very much yet to be determined, but there's no denying he has the capacity to improve and do so significantly due to his age and body size/position.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Loving the melt downs from you GetDimmaBack

Yes, the fact that you could have had Wright and Lever is all hindsight, but it's still fact.

As for his salary being structured to cope with this in the future. Yes, every club does this with big contracts, pay more early or late to free up some money in other years. You will still be paying on average $1 million a year for a guy that looks unlikely to get to the elite level, it WILL have an affect on who you can bring into your club, whether you like it or not.

In fact just 9 months ago Jake Carlisle refused to meet with your club because you could not get near the offer that Carlton and St Kilda had on the table.

Not melting, just sick of fwits.


You've presented a lot of "facts" here, birdman.

Fact is, if Milne had picked up the ball and goaled instead of letting it bounce through for a point, Saints would have another flag.

Hindsight, but it's still a fact. Whether you like it or not, in fact.

 

[Roadto2018]

Overrated season - had some very good games but also some nondescript games. Not the season of player around the $700k a season mark. Is there much scope for improvement in him, seeing as he has been in the system for a number of years now, is a one-paced mid with questionable disposal and decision-making skills, and still sits behind the likes of Kennedy, Hanneberry and Jack as key mids for the Swans? Would he be able to carry his team's midfield (together with Hanneberry) when Kennedy and Jack finish up? Perhaps, but there's a lower ceiling of improvement than there is for Boyd - the challenge for Boyd is to actually improve which is very much yet to be determined, but there's no denying he has the capacity to improve and do so significantly due to his age and body size/position.

He's not getting payed 700k?