Tony Shaw on Open Mike

[vjknight]

and wouldnt you know it.....this wind is playing havoc with my signal and i cant watch it.

oh well tomorrow i guess

 

[mattys123]

It was pretty good, they didn't talk too much about the coaching which was a positive, because let's face it that was the big negative.

The stuff about 1990 bought a tear to me eye, saying that Ray left the ground when the siren went because he couldn't watch it, and Bob Rose and co were in tears, that's chilling stuff.

Well worth a watch.

 

[Anzacday]

One of the things that stood out to me when he was coaching was the zoning when kicking out after a point. And also, (pretty obvious), the defender holding the ball over his head when kicking long.
I loved Tony Shaw, gave all he had with limited abilities - bled for the club. Okay in my book

And he played the kids at the detriment to his win/loss ratio

 

[Vicky Park]

Interesting interview. Great footage of those years, including Ronnie Wearmouth (loved Ronnie!).

Tony is a Pies man through and through, tough as nails, blue collar. Has had good and bad times, but shows no bitterness towards the club. Lots of drinking stories too - the professionalism of footballers has come on leaps and bounds.

 

[Vampire013]

To be honest I never liked him as a player when he started out.
He was small, chubby, slow and couldn't kick longer than 40 meters.
However, over the years that changed.
Got to love him as a player over time.
Had a huge heart, gave his all and was a consistent performer.

 

[vjknight]

theres a state game versus SA late 80's where he stood platten and kept him dead quiet - one of his best games.

 

[regpies]

Why did Brayden get cut fairly quickly? Remember him having a few injuries

 

[BlackWhiteBlood]

Favorite player as a kid, probably why I a a soft spot for any magpie who wears 22

 

[domin8tors]

Great interview, he was open on honest. pretty much said that he new that he was a dud coach and only wanted the best for the club, he was told that MM was taking over with 10 weeks left in the season and was happy to just teach and play the kids..

 

[TheWing121]

Great interview, he was open on honest. pretty much said that he new that he was a dud coach and only wanted the best for the club, he was told that MM was taking over with 10 weeks left in the season and was happy to just teach and play the kids..

Did he have much to say about his playing days? any interesting stories?

 

[Damon_3388]

One of the things that stood out to me when he was coaching was the zoning when kicking out after a point.

Didn't Robert Walls introduce this back in the '80s?

And also, (pretty obvious), the defender holding the ball over his head when kicking long.

Hasn't this always been the universal signal for "kicking long" in footy?

If anything, from his comments last night, it sounds like he wasn't with the times with his coaching style, particularly defensively, and paid for it accordingly.

 

[Maggie5]

Didn't Robert Walls introduce this back in the '80s?



Hasn't this always been the universal signal for "kicking long" in footy?

If anything, from his comments last night, it sounds like he wasn't with the times with his coaching style, particularly defensively, and paid for it accordingly.

I must admit I didn't follow Robert Wall's methods being a Collingwood supporter. Can only comment on what I thought.

That signal is rarely used these days.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

Matthews admitted that he didn't leave Shaw with much. Absolutely true.

 

[Seedsfan]

Never knew that he had another brother, that must have been hard for them

 

[Pedro]

I am probably like a lot of Collingwood fans who loved A.Shaw as a player, not so much as a coach, and less as a commentator. However, I went to a sportsmans night recently where Shaw was one of the speakers and he totally won me over again. He was fantastic to listen to. Great stories from his playing days, and totally honest about his coaching time. He failed, he knows it and it doesn't sit well with him.

Sometimes in the media he cops a bit of stick from Collingwood people, but I think he is just genuinely honest. Hearing him speak, he undoubtedly loves Collingwood. Always will.

He was asked the inevitable Darren Millane question and I thought the poor bugger was going to shed a tear. He spoke with real emotion and I don't think any of us will ever comprehend the massive impact that event had on that group of players.

And he was the funniest bastard there by a mile!

 

[jathanas]

Tony Shaw had no pace, or a long kick. He did have the determination and hardness to compensate for any physical shortcomings or skill deficiencies. Wasn't pretty to watch but he did carry authority well. By all accounts was a world champion sledger too. I've spent quite a bit of time around 2 of my 1990 premiership heroes this year; they did roll differently then.

 

[TradeDraft]

Tony Shaw had no pace, or a long kick. He did have the determination and hardness to compensate for any physical shortcomings or skill deficiencies. Wasn't pretty to watch but he did carry authority well. By all accounts was a world champion sledger too. I've spent quite a bit of time around 2 of my 1990 premiership heroes this year; they did roll differently then.

Bit like our last Premiership Captain as he was not a Fantastic Footballer but got the best out of himself and was a Fantastic Leader

 

[Vampire013]

Never knew that he had another brother, that must have been hard for them

Yeah not many people know about Neville Shaw.
He played 43 games for the pies b/w 1984-86.
He done his PCL in 1986 and didn't play again for us.

 

[Vicky Park]

Yeah not many people know about Neville Shaw.
He played 43 games for the pies b/w 1984-86.
He done his PCL in 1986 and didn't play again for us.

I remember Neville, but then again I am a bit obsessed by the Shaw clan. Love 'em.

But I didnt know about the other brother Kelvin (Calvin?), and it was very sad hearing about him last night.

 

[Vampire013]

I remember Neville, but then again I am a bit obsessed by the Shaw clan. Love 'em.

But I didnt know about the other brother Kelvin (Calvin?), and it was very sad hearing about him last night.

I have recorded the interview and have not watched it yet.
I thought that you were talking about Neville.
I didn't know about the other brother either.
I'll try and watch it later tonight.

 

[vjknight]

And then there was Gary and the black sheep of the family derek

 

[Robroy22]

Sorry dave but you don't play three hundred games, captain a premiership side, win B+F's, win the Norm Smith and play for your state in state of origin if you're "not a fantastic footballer"
Shawy was an extremely efficient player who looked and sounded rough around the edges but was never beaten in one on one contests (the 1990 team had SO many great 1:1 players, they didn't look flashy....cept for Daics, but boy could they play contested footy)
Shawy also had courage. So much so that he made Rowdy and Ned (Gavin Brown and Craig Kelly) elevate their own expectations of what courage was. I witnessed him "standing in the hole" in front of a rampant "Plugger Lockett" one day at Viccy Park. Shawy took two or three fabulous intercepting marks and felt the full force of the 120kg power forward on each occasion. Each time he dragged himself up, gave Plugger a slap and a good old fashioned "gob full" and delivered one of his pin point 30m passes to another magpie. In the end Plugger gave up leading and the Saints gave up kicking it at him.
Another time Shawy dislocated his elbow during a game. These days the game would stop and a stretcher would be brought out and the injury would be supported all the way to the hospital. Shawy jogged off the ground with his lower arm contorted at a disgusting angle, signalling other players and yelling orders to his players. He showed no pain (despite being in agony) and he gave the impression to his team mates that: "I'll be back in a minute, its just a scratch"
He missed the next three months.

Yep Tony Shaw got the most out of himself (and others) as a player. Yes he was a magnificent leader and a legendary "big game player" but he was a fantastic footballer in an ugly, stumpy body. He read the play as well as anyone, he had the discipline to sacrifice his own game for his team if he was asked to "shutdown" an opposition gun, and he had the knack of knowing just how to get inside any opponent's head. He wasn't a good "sledger" Tony Shaw was the best there's ever been!

 

[Seedsfan]

Yeah not many people know about Neville Shaw.
He played 43 games for the pies b/w 1984-86.
He done his PCL in 1986 and didn't play again for us.

I knew about Neville it was Calvin that I did not know about

 

[Vicky Park]

And then there was Gary and the black sheep of the family derek

You got me on Gary. I think I recall Derek.

From Wikipedia' list of Aussie Rules football families (doesnt mention the other brother):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_rules_football_families#S

Shaw

• Brayden Shaw
• Heath Shaw
• Neville Shaw
• Ray Shaw
• Reg Shaw
• Rhyce Shaw
• Tony Shaw

Reg was the father of Ray, Tony and Neville. Ray is the father of Heath and Rhyce. Brayden, the son of Tony, was drafted by Collingwood but never made his AFL debut.

 

[Robroy22]

Derek Shaw was a classic "debut in a final" wear number 43, not go on to play too many games magpie. He was also ruck man size and quite classically skilled in kicking (tall and elegant, not something we equate with the Shaw's.
Gary was the high priced West Australian rover that cost us a mint during the 80's bidding wars. He was a fair player but nowhere near a Wayne Richardson or a Ronny Wearmouth (and they played for chips)