Aboriginal & TSI Top Victorian indigenous football players not to make AFL/VFL
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absolute GUN point guard...
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Not sure I've heard of him but I will ask around..
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Thanks for that. He orginally played for North Ballarat when it was in the old Ballarat F.L.
I am not sure what happened to him after he left the Saints, but he may have ended out Creswick way as that was where his family was from IIRC.
I am originally from Portland so I got to see Winnis and his brother James playing a variety of sports. Winnis was a freak at any sport he played. I remember a game of cricket in U15s when a kid on my team was giving him crap all day. The kid comes out to bat, winnis comes on to bowl and hits him square in the nuts, smashed his box into multiple bits.. He was a pretty slippery bowler and handy batsmen.
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" Best centre half foward or backman, up (there) with Robbie Muir but a different footballer, kick both feet.." Gary Murray
Also a member of the North Ballarat best 22 team from 1952-1995 BFL era.
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Is former ATSIC chair Geoff Clark the source for the claims in The Age about fair skinned indigenous footballers from Warrnambool?
He would know & has made similar remarks in the past.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Clark_(politician)
He would know & has made similar remarks in the past.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Clark_(politician)
He was a gun footballer, but i'm pretty sure Mifsud is the source for his own comment as he's from Warrnambool as well!
the thing is,indigenous footballers are referred to as footballers if they're from Victoria
you rarely hear franklin referred to as an "aboriginal" star, he's just a star
sure, there is aboriginals who haven't made it, but it's no different to a white guy missing out, if you ain't good enough, you ain't good enough
you rarely hear franklin referred to as an "aboriginal" star, he's just a star
sure, there is aboriginals who haven't made it, but it's no different to a white guy missing out, if you ain't good enough, you ain't good enough
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Ron Edwards must've been pretty handy for a bush player with bags of 43 & 26 goals. My old man was full forward for a team that played against Lake Tyers, we're also Edwards but white. Dad said that Ron would call him the white sheep of the family, and good naturedly stir him about getting the talent in the family.
Ron Edwards must've been pretty handy for a bush player with bags of 43 & 26 goals. My old man was full forward for a team that played against Lake Tyers, we're also Edwards but white. Dad said that Ron would call him the white sheep of the family, and good naturedly stir him about getting the talent in the family.
Never even knew there was a ground up there, let alone a footy club. Where was the ground - near the primary school?
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Were they indigenous?
Im actually from heywood but never heard of those names before..
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Your missing the point mate, it's not in relation to just aboriginals not being drafted..
I only wanted some old background stories on the lesser known indigenous players that may have made it. Sure there were guys with skill oozing out of them but were lazy or uncommitted and didn't make it, and that was their choice, who cares that they didn't make it really? But there are also good stories out there about absolute guns who had other committments, or had horrific injuries at 18 or who even died at a young age..
There is no talk of ' he shoulda played here but he was black or he coulda played there but he was an alco'...
I'm just a proud Victorian aboriginal who wants to hear some of those stories from the past that aren't told so much..
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Thanks for that ST, just wondering who Gary Murray is ?
Is he a North Ballarat FC historian ?
He was certainly a different type of player to Robbie Muir, but an outstanding young player none the less.
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Gary played for the Victorian Aboriginal State teams during the 70's and 80's and was also the captain for the Fitzroy Stars in that period. I think he was giving his personal view of Eric rather than a North Ballarat view.
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