Education & Reference Uni Thread

[ben_09]

No but I did get some coke and ice from the WC stand.

You served those products for most of you life.

 

[AsianWithAFro]

Do any of you look at your University's stalker page?

 

[centrelink1]

Publicity stunt, you need to go deeper.

Yeah, THAT'S what you intended.

You served those products for most of you life.

****ing lol

 

[shibz_1989]

You served those products for most of you life.

Damn you for owning my ass.

 

[yeah_nah]

Sitting at around a 30% lecture attendance rate for this semester. feelslazyman

Committed brah is committed.

I'm sitting on 0% attendance for lectures. srs.

 

[the emergency]

Do any of you look at your University's stalker page?

so many useless notifications..

 

[centrelink1]

Damn you for owned my ass.

I think that was Rojo, not ben

 

[shibz_1989]

Yeah time for you to shut up now.

 

[centrelink1]

 

[Chrisrocks53]

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/so...long-with-their-hecs-debt-20110320-1c24r.html

We like to fancy ourselves as being a great nation of egalitarians. Yet when you look closely, we do not always pass the test. Nobody sensible believes that equality of opportunity should mean equality of outcome. But we do like to think that we treat people equally. That we are ''fair''.
Despite our self-image as a fair and egalitarian country, we nonetheless happily treat school-leavers who go to university much more generously than we do all the other school-leavers. This generous treatment only panders to and enhances the snobbish, middle-class, inflated sense of being better that so many tertiary-educated people seem to display.
We all enjoy the benefits of a well-educated society, which is why we should keep seeking to raise the standard. But let's not forget that those who benefit the most are those that get the better education. University graduates generally get better jobs, have higher incomes, enjoy better health and spend less time in jail.


This is neither a small nor a passing benefit. Yes, there is a great public benefit in higher education - but there is a great personal one as well.
Sadly, the opportunity is not spread as evenly as many would hope. To try to spread the opportunity, we have a wonderful system that allows you to get a tertiary education and to pay later . . . much later. The factors, other than the cost, that determine whether someone goes to university come into play much earlier in life, and they are not easy to even out. So the remaining two-thirds of school-leavers just have to make the best of their lot.
It's a sorry state of affairs when any secondary school student, in response to the question, ''What do you want to do when you leave school?'' starts the answer with a mumbled, ''Well, I won't go to university.'' In such a lucky, wealthy country, how did we end up with young Australians thinking they are somehow lesser because they are not going to university? How did we end up with any young Australians defining themselves in the first instance by a negative?
In a society that all too often admires wealth over and above many admirable qualities, what else did we expect? If you value wealth over skill or decency or any number of other virtuous qualities, you must expect that those who get the ticket that sends them down the wealthier path, namely a degree, feel as though they are pretty special.
Thirty-something years ago, on my first overseas trip, an old man who made his living giving tourists horse-drawn buggy rides around Rome taught me a good lesson. My hotel, to suit my budget, was outside the walls. He was resting nearby and I flashed my student card to get a decent discount. Amazed and indignant, he refused. He had seen me come out from a reasonable, but certainly not flash, hotel and decided I did not need any discount.
I was annoyed and moved on to get a ride somewhere else. But I did not seek the discount a second time. That old guy, probably without much opportunity in his earlier life, stood up for the principle that if you do not need help, you should not get it.
More recently, Rome provided another lesson. I met a Filipina woman who had worked overseas for nine or more years. She sent every penny she could back home to her husband to help raise and educate their three boys. Her family could not give her an education and she will always be grateful to the Catholic nuns who provided her with schooling. She has made sure her boys get the very best she can. You would be lucky to find a more decent, hardworking, honest and principled person. She had the added bonus of commonsense, which is, after all, not that common.
At the same time, I have worked over many years with many people who did have a tertiary education, some of whom had picked up few, if any, of the abovementioned qualities.
Science and research generally offer hope for the future. Without them we are doomed. But people with degrees are not in themselves more valuable. Without the qualities of my Filipina friend, they are just expensive pains in the neck.
I have no quibble with the investment we make in higher education or in students. I just think that, to be fair, they should have to start paying it back sooner.
The full adult pension, including supplement, is about $19,000 a year. The minimum wage is just under $30,000. So why do we say to students, who get a massive loan at no real interest rate, that they do not have to pay back a cent until they are earning just under $45,000?

Thoughts?

I think its incoherent dribble, which is trying to be smart but ultimately fails in her delivery. According to a quick wikipedia edit, she's dishonest, lazy and has no principles as she hasn't paid back any of her free education she received at the University of Adelaide back in the prehistoric ages. Go back in your hole Amanda.

 

[centrelink1]

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/so...long-with-their-hecs-debt-20110320-1c24r.html



Thoughts?

I think its incoherent dribble, which is trying to be smart but ultimately fails in her delivery. According to a quick wikipedia edit, she's dishonest, lazy and has no principles as she hasn't paid back any of her free education she received at the University of Adelaide back in the prehistoric ages. Go back in your hole Amanda.

You mean 'drivel'.

 

[shibz_1989]

Lol. I'd love for her to have a look at how I could afford to pay back my student loan. The most I've earned while being at uni was last financial year and that was around $35,000. Even then I was only part time at uni for 6 of those months, not to mention I was doing a lot of hours casually.

Maybe if things such as textbooks, an allowance while you're out on unpaid prac and other little things were added onto the loan I would be able to pay it back sooner.

EDIT: Forgot to add, I doubt there is any uni degree that is paid less then $45,000 anyway. Nursing graduates alone are paid $50,000+ so I don't understand what she's whinging about??

 

[Chrisrocks53]

You mean 'drivel'.

Yes you maybe right, but I do find this article comparable to this condition; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-void_dribbling, Vanstone in a nutshell.

 

[Scootyb]

I think that was Rojo, not ben

, just

 

[shibz_1989]

Can we stop posting things about my private life? I really do not appreciate it. Cheers.

 

[the emergency]

It's RoJo's private life too

 

[weagles_fan]

Anyone playing that DCM Bluelake share game and just putting it all in Sundance?

 

[FlyingBurittoBro]

You mean 'drivel'.

i'm sure he did, though dictionary.com has the first use of drivel as

1. saliva flowing from the mouth, or mucus from the nose

which is pretty much dribble

I can't believe this woman tried to flash her student card at some poor old guy driving tourists around with a horse and buggy.

 

[WheatsWorshipper]

You served those products for most of you life.

I think that was Rojo, not ben

It's RoJo's private life too

 

[ben_09]

Anyone playing that DCM Bluelake share game and just putting it all in Sundance?

have 50k worth of sdl, needs to move asap.

 

[rofltown]

I'll make more money than any of you in this thread. Chemical Engineer bitches.

You're in for a shock....

 

[GoldenCoast]

Hey all...

Just joined up, wish I found this board earlier although the suns board is a bit dead

seems like a great place to vent and share the excitement and frustration of being a GC supporter.

as for me, moved up here after working in Oil and Gas as an Engineer, at the moment making plenty of Green and livin the dream

also I like movies, music and La crosse (was born in the USA)

 

[GoldenCoast]

bugger!

rookie mistake!!

how do i get rid of that, had too many tabs open at once for me old mind to co ordinate

 

[HSSB]

 

[GoldenCoast]

You're in for a shock....

This is what I came in here to post.

Its actually not an illustrious industry as people say, chemical engineers in the most part make toothpaste and whatnot...

labour is all about supply and demand, we always get new grads coming in expecting huge money first year, in reality it doesnt work like that... you have to put in alot of hours and do alot of hard work before you get the big money!

working in oil and gas I have been very lucky, and you will make very very good money... I personally think that we are underpaid when you have managers who have basic commerce degrees getting 20-30% more pay in some instances