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Great idea Centrelink. And just for your information, I no longer work for Maccas c00lcat. Got sick of the crap.

Next time you get sick, I would like you to get yourself admitted to hospital...oh wait, you wouldn't be able to, there would be no nurse to do it! The only thing we don't do is diagnose and prescribe medication.

EDIT: Even if I did still work at Maccas, it wouldn't matter. Because I wouldn't be doing it for life! It was just a stepping stone.

So are nurses just glorified receptionists these days shibz?

Anyway following your line of thought - the people at my local supermarket are saving lives everyday too.

I need to eat shibz, without those blessed coles employees where would I source my nutritional needs from? I simply couldn't.
15 year old checkout chics saving lives one transaction at a time, I hope you think of that next time you shop. Think of them as a peer, a comrade even: another fighter in the fight for the life of humanity.
 
So are nurses just glorified receptionists these days shibz?

Yes, because a receptionist with no medical experience admits a patient :rolleyes:

This conversation is getting ridiculous. You're just picking a fight because it's me...
 

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Yes, because a receptionist with no medical experience admits a patient :rolleyes:

This conversation is getting ridiculous. You're just picking a fight because it's me...

No, I just can't stand people acting so self righteous:

Savings lives >> Money.

You've suggested that your job is greater than most others because you're 'saving' people. I'm just allowing you to realise that becoming a nurse is no way to justify acting moralistically superior to everyone else.

There are large number of jobs which directly impact upon the wellbeing of people. There are also many, many, many people who may not have such a seemingly philanthropic vocation yet still possess the values of a saint and make a large contribution to society away from work.

Lawyers are stereotyped as scum but I know personally of at least a couple who go significantly out of their way to benefit the lives of others after hours. One could safely assume there are many others doing similar who I don't happen to know personally.

But even leaving aside pursuits away from the office, there is more ways to benefit society than 'saving lives'. Doctors, surgeons, and yes even nurses, do impact on the lives of others in a clear and positive way. But you don't have to be mending someone back to health to have the right set of morals and values, or be crucial to the continued operation of our world. Farmers slave away at their homes to provide us with the food we need to go about our daily routine. There are physiotherapists and chiropractors who, whilst maybe not 'saving lives', can recuperate people and get them back on their feet, sort out their back problems maybe, increasing the enjoyment they're going to get out of life. I'd say these men and women are doing some pretty good things.

And yes, even engineers are pretty important believe it or not. Whilst they won't be cleaning up your puke, they will be designing bridges that can cope with kilotonnes of weight without falling apart. They're the ones who come up with design ideas to limit the impact earthquakes will have on houses and skyscrapers alike. You remember Christchurch? Without innovations made by people like engineers over the last century you would find there would be many more fatalities.

Hang on what, engineers can't make a difference, they don't work in hospitals.

You're not that special shibz.
 
Correction. I was simply saying that money isn't all that important. So, sorry if I came across self rightous. I never once said I was more important then anyone. And saying that, I don't believe that I am.
 
Kinda back on topic; first year uni student here. How many lectures does everyone attend in person these days? I'm finding myself very tempted by the thought of sleep ins and just listening to them online. At the moment I attend about 80% of my lectures, is that the norm?



It generally depends on how much you get out of lectures. I dont have lectures in postgrad, but I tried to go to all lectures in undergrad simply because it got me into the mindset for learning and studying. It was the same kind of principle that saw me trying to avoid online courses at all costs. If I wasnt at uni, I found it hard to study the course notes and do the required readings. Even if the lecture was rubbish, I'd go along and just listen or do some catchup work. Being in that environment made me switch on

Chances are, as a first year, you wont listen to the lecture online, so if you think there's some value in attending, attend. Try not to fall into the trap of partying hard and sleeping all the time at the expense of your studies. Uni isnt a holiday, so dont treat it like one. You gotta balance work and play. I only just managed to do that in first year. Try not to listen to people who try and get you to skip uni, saying "P's get degrees". Yeah, they do, but P's dont get jobs.
 
Do people actually look at your marks when you are applying for work? We've had lecturers tell us "P=degree"?
 
On lectures, I went to all of my lectures and tutorials. Although I consider that the exception rather than the rule.

On employers looking at marks, it depends on the course and your ambitions. The top-draw companies for anything considered a 'profession' (so accountants, doctors, legal etc.) give a sh*t and it goes down from there.
 

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It generally depends on how much you get out of lectures. I dont have lectures in postgrad, but I tried to go to all lectures in undergrad simply because it got me into the mindset for learning and studying. It was the same kind of principle that saw me trying to avoid online courses at all costs. If I wasnt at uni, I found it hard to study the course notes and do the required readings. Even if the lecture was rubbish, I'd go along and just listen or do some catchup work. Being in that environment made me switch on

Chances are, as a first year, you wont listen to the lecture online, so if you think there's some value in attending, attend. Try not to fall into the trap of partying hard and sleeping all the time at the expense of your studies. Uni isnt a holiday, so dont treat it like one. You gotta balance work and play. I only just managed to do that in first year. Try not to listen to people who try and get you to skip uni, saying "P's get degrees". Yeah, they do, but P's dont get jobs.

Very good advice. During undergrad I would miss maybe 2-3 lectures a semester (and I lived about 45 mins from uni). If I only had 1 - 2 hrs of contact I would simply got to the library and do other course related work. Actually just finished 4 weeks of Saturday intensive subject in Educational Research Methodology (Master of Education). 9:00 am to 4:00 pm on a Saturday. Glad that's over. 7 hrs in the one room is not much fun.
 
On lectures, I went to all of my lectures and tutorials. Although I consider that the exception rather than the rule.

On employers looking at marks, it depends on the course and your ambitions. The top-draw companies for anything considered a 'profession' (so accountants, doctors, legal etc.) give a sh*t and it goes down from there.

Awesome. Got a bit worried there :)

Not that I haven't not passed anything. Just do better in assignments then exams and exams always seem to be worth more :mad:
 
I've just started my second year, but last year I only missed one tutorial due to illness and went to every one of my lectures - even on the days where I only had one or two contact hours. And I live 45 minutes away.

Like THRILLHO, going to the lectures helped get me into the right mindset and made me comfortable that I was getting the right information in - without lectures it would be easy to miss some important information. It sounds silly, but I'm not motivated enough to sit and home and listen to my computer for an hour (i-lecture), but I'm happy to drive 45 minutes to sit in class without the risk of getting distracted by the TV etc.
 
Do people actually look at your marks when you are applying for work? We've had lecturers tell us "P=degree"?

P=degree for sure, but if your competing for a position with a number of people with the same qualification, such as an entry level position after a nursing degree, your marks could be a deciding factor. Also if you ever want to earn a higher qualification such as a masters then a history of 'P' isn't going to get you in the door. Not vital in all industries, but important in some.

In all honesty, when I'm hiring experienced staff I have never asked for a transcript. I know who the candidates are through the grapevine and talking to references on a formal basis. And presentation is important.
 
If you're paying a couple of grand a semester why would you want to skip a lecture? Would be like throwing money down a drain.
 

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If you're paying a couple of grand a semester why would you want to skip a lecture? Would be like throwing money down a drain.

2 hours into a 3 hour media law lecture and I'd gladly give up that money just to skip out.

IMO as long as you pass, you can skip however many lectures you want.
 
That is the main reason many people skip lectures though- they are painful to the point where your attendance is really not helping because you aren't concentrating anyway.

If you skip lectures and fail the subject, then that is a waste of money. If you pass, you're laughing.
 

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