VFL coverage

[Bad Horse]

The legalities of using unpaid workers, even if they're students, is questionable.

Not really, its pretty straightforward.

I work for RMIT, and tens of thousands of our students do what is called Work Integrated Learning units, for credit in their degree, every year with industry for free. We have a school of Media and Comms based in the city with its own WIL coordinator, and the projects assigned to students I would guess look quite like this.

You would have to limit the number of hours expected of the student to a reasonable amount relative to course credit, and demonstrate alignment between the learning activities of the task and the unit Learning Objectives, but that is what the WIL team is for.

For a 12 credit point unit, which is a pretty standard unit and which would correspond to 1/8 of a year's loading, a student could be expected to undertake about 120 hours of activity including assessments.

 

[barrackers]

The legalities of using unpaid workers, even if they're students, is questionable.

I also think CrowdedHouse you might be lowballing those staff costs. I wouldn't do it for so little, personally. But best case scenario it's like $15,000 to $40,000 per year. That's an extra junior staffmember's salary. I can't see how that's justifiable.

Given the games are already filmed the cost would be significantly less especially if we take Essendon’s approach of simply uploading an unedited full game replay with no commentary. At best it would be 20-30 hours or 1-2k labour over the whole season.

 

[buzzbuzz]

Just in case you still think $40,000 is not justifiable for the Club.......in 2017 Total club revenue was $77,736,469 (2016 - $71,475,457)
$40,000 is chicken feed in the scheme of things.

I said it previously in this thread - that's not how budgeting works! The media arm would be allocated a certain budget based on how they've justified their costs, and measured against their own revenue. Not against the club's total revenue. But look I guess my explanations, as someone who literally works in this exact field, haven't made sense to some people, so I might just tap out here.

 

[CFC2010]

I said it previously in this thread - that's not how budgeting works! The media arm would be allocated a certain budget based on how they've justified their costs, and measured against their own revenue. Not against the club's total revenue. But look I guess my explanations, as someone who literally works in this exact field, haven't made sense to some people, so I might just tap out here.

One thing I know is budgets.......how about instead of budgeting for that "free" flimsy magnet fixture in 2019 they budget for a simple VFL replay instead?
Probably "cost" the same per member anyway.

No one questioned your experience in your field by the way.

 

[CrowdedHouse]

I said it previously in this thread - that's not how budgeting works! The media arm would be allocated a certain budget based on how they've justified their costs, and measured against their own revenue. Not against the club's total revenue. But look I guess my explanations, as someone who literally works in this exact field, haven't made sense to some people, so I might just tap out here.

I'll tap in then, since I also work in the field.

The cost is more than justifiable. From a PR perspective, you get to market to members "look what else we are giving you", to make them feel they are getting more value for their membership.

From a corporate point of view, even without selling ads in the first year, you can give your middle to lower tier sponsors free air time on the coverage (as or half-time interviews). They feel like they are being looked after by the club, and then next year the club can justify a small bump in price for those sponsor packages - consider it a loss leader.

 

[buzzbuzz]

I'll tap in then, since I also work in the field.

The cost is more than justifiable. From a PR perspective, you get to market to members "look what else we are giving you", to make them feel they are getting more value for their membership.

From a corporate point of view, even without selling ads in the first year, you can give your middle to lower tier sponsors free air time on the coverage (as or half-time interviews). They feel like they are being looked after by the club, and then next year the club can justify a small bump in price for those sponsor packages - consider it a loss leader.

Yep that's all fair - not something you can necessarily switch on in Round 9 though. I guess it depends on the priorities of the sales team as well.

 

[TradeDraft]

Yep that's all fair - not something you can necessarily switch on in Round 9 though. I guess it depends on the priorities of the sales team as well.

So I guess you everything about the Club then

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Black_White]

Yep that's all fair - not something you can necessarily switch on in Round 9 though. I guess it depends on the priorities of the sales team as well.

True, not something you can switch on in round 9.
I would argue that there were 5 months before round 1 to switch on.

 

[Aussie pie]

Anyone noticed all the stuff Collingwood media is putting out lately, now a podcast. They seem to be very busy don’t they?
Just thought I’d mention it.

 

[Hong Kong Pie]

Anyone noticed all the stuff Collingwood media is putting out lately, now a podcast. They seem to be very busy don’t they?
Just thought I’d mention it.

Yeah, interesting. Just watched "from Lulie Street" with Sam Gastin and Marcus Wags, and the latter was suggesting that this week's show might possibly be the last one. Not sure what that means - uncertainty about the general VFL coverage? Changes on the way to the media dept.? Guess we'll see.

 

[unplugged]

One thing I know is budgets.......how about instead of budgeting for that "free" flimsy magnet fixture in 2019 they budget for a simple VFL replay instead?
Probably "cost" the same per member anyway.

No one questioned your experience in your field by the way.

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To be fair, I refer to my magnet from time to time...

As long as I've got a magnifying glass handy.

 

[unplugged]

If someone's happy to go from Collingwood to Carlton, good riddance. But would anyone be surprised if we didn't replace him? Probably further downsizing in progress.

 

[TradeDraft]

Yeah, interesting. Just watched "from Lulie Street" with Sam Gastin and Marcus Wags, and the latter was suggesting that this week's show might possibly be the last one. Not sure what that means - uncertainty about the general VFL coverage? Changes on the way to the media dept.? Guess we'll see.

They don't care about the VFL Team?

 

[TradeDraft]

If someone's happy to go from Collingwood to Carlton, good riddance. But would anyone be surprised if we didn't replace him? Probably further downsizing in progress.

Are we that badly ran we have to get rid of People to make Money?

 

[Aussie pie]

Just wanted to share this. It’s just a screen shot about the Dewar shield, this was on Facebook live and it was through the Melbourne rebels. So the rebels can afford one guy with a camera and Facebook but we can’t.

 

[TradeDraft]

Just wanted to share this. It’s just a screen shot but the Dewar shield was on Facebook live and it was through the Melbourne rebels. So the rebels can afford one guy with a camera and Facebook but we can’t.
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Just makes the Club look like a Joke

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[TradeDraft]

The Collingwood Camera Man. Had a Computer he could use to Stream the Game

 

[buzzbuzz]

The Collingwood Camera Man. Had a Computer he could use to Stream the Game

Mate it's a separate job. Stop having a go at people when you know absolutely nothing about the industry.

 

[TradeDraft]

Mate it's a separate job. Stop having a go at people when you know absolutely nothing about the industry.

Well Mods please just give me a Day Off