Grand Uncle Horace
Shake down the thunder
This dog act should have got 4 weeks or sent direct to the Tribunal.
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Of course it should have been elevated because it is clearly intentional and clearly a very high risk to cause serious harm but if people dont care the AFL doesnt either.
You're in luckThe optics of it are terrible. Felt like 2 weeks at least.
That said, it would be good to see it side by side with Tom Stewart on Charlie Cameron.
Very similar incidents in the same week but only one cited.
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It's not the same instance.
Fogarty shoves Stockers head forwards towards the Astroturf. This was roughly 15-30 seconds before the Williams incident.It's not the same instance.
You just mistaken, or disingenuous?
The optics of it are terrible. Felt like 2 weeks at least.
That said, it would be good to see it side by side with Tom Stewart on Charlie Cameron.
Very similar incidents in the same week but only one cited.
Are you really trying to compare Fogarty's push of the Carlton player in that footage above to the dog act by Williams to lift up a crows player head and slam it into the ground..reallyThe optics aren't totally fair though. Most of the optic are on a 1 second clip that has been looped, out of context, to provoke outrage.
In the context of a melee, with other similar incidents (Fogarty pushing Stocker into the group, the elbow to the head of Docherty that provoked Williams). It's clear when you watch the full clip that Williams' intent was to pull the bloke off Docherty and then dumped him as a last resort. It's dangerous and stupid, and a tribunal appearance and suspension is ok.
But as you point out, and others have said too, it is incomprehensible that similar isn't being applied to others. In particular:
- Stewart, for an identical act, with zero context (this is just in play, smashing a guy's head into the ground) = not even reported
- Fogarty, for hitting a defenseless opponent, late, with significant force = zero weeks, play on.
- For the other similar incidents in the same melee
After the farce that was Plowman's two week suspension for a 'football act'... followed by everyone in the media ganging up to make sure that Mackay got off for a far worse hit (that hospitalised a player with a very serious injury). When Buddy lines up and runs through a Carlton player and gets a fine that he can pay for with pocket change...
After both Curnow brothers get suspended in the same game, for innocuous contact with an umpire (the sort that happens a thousand times over the course of a season)]
Even after Selwood gets cleared for twice gouging a player's face in a match and stepping on a player, while Judd gets 3 weeks for the same offence.
It gets hard to not feel like again and again Carlton players cop the worst of the tribunal... and other clubs, particularly Geelong (and in this case Adelaide) get an absolute armchair run.
We should challenge this and take it to court, simply on principle if nothing happens to Stewart, Fogarty, and the others involved. Absolute farce.
No, I think he's commenting on the late hit into the body of Weitering - particularly when contrasted against Plowman's suspension for a "bump" in a marking contest against O'Meara.Are you really trying to compare Fogarty's push of the Carlton player in that footage above to the dog act by Williams to lift up a crows player head and slam it into the ground..really
No - as pointed out, I'm comparing that cheap dog Fogarty running through a defenseless Weitering. Although. if you watch the melee footage Fogarty also pushes Stocker's head into the astroturf, and Stocker was further slammed into the turf by Chase Jones (I think).Are you really trying to compare Fogarty's push of the Carlton player in that footage above to the dog act by Williams to lift up a crows player head and slam it into the ground..really
Well since you bring up forwards, Fogarty is getting a run at least, how is McGovern going..I was hoping McNuggets might play yesterday but he seems to be overweight and a big liability. I suppose he can be de-listed at years end..or does he still have another year or 2 left on that 800K per year contract Carlton gave him. But anyway, tell your players not to lift up a head and slam it into the turf and they won;t get suspendedNo - as pointed out, I'm comparing that cheap dog Fogarty running through a defenseless Weitering. Although. if you watch the melee footage Fogarty also pushes Stocker's head into the astroturf, and Stocker was further slammed into the turf by Chase Jones (I think).
Clearly, though, the MRP felt that allowing Fogarty to play for Adelaide was a far bigger penalty than suspending him. Let's see if he can give away as many free kicks as he has disposals next week as well. Maybe that's a bit harsh. I mean, he only had 5 clangers from his 3 disposals, but he did lay his first tackle in two months, so I guess that partly cancels it out.
Well since you bring up forwards, Fogarty is getting a run at least, how is McGovern going..I was hoping McNuggets might play yesterday but he seems to be overweight and a big liability. I suppose he can be de-listed at years end..or does he still have another year or 2 left on that 800K per year contract Carlton gave him. But anyway, tell your players not to lift up a head and slam it into the turf and they won;t get suspended
McGovern...we gave you guys a promising upcoming young forward, what the hell has your club done to him?Even fat, overpaid and injured, McGovern made a better contribution to our win on the weekend than Fogarty did for you.
And yep, Williams might have crossed a line but from what I can see at the tribunal, the biggest line he crossed was the colour of his guernsey. Add some horizontal white stripes and he probably gets an All-Australian nomination instead.
Tex got HOW MANY WEEKS FOR THIS? Wow.