Past #31: David Hale - drafted at #7 in the Superdraft - 129 games for NM - traded to HFC in 2010

[NMFC Est 1869]

Well don't say it, if you cannot have 100% faith in the decisions that NMFC have with the players they choose now and the future, they don't want members like you, stay loyal and support the club or go away!

Are you a member of the Nazi party? Follow blindly to the promised land, do as they say, obey their command, never question their decisions.
You are kidding youself luv

 

[Twinkletoes]

Whilst watching things unfold on Saturday and seeing Hale fail to present with any authority, go to ground and generally give us nothing whilst Kosi was the complete opposite up the other end, I was thinking "and Hale's meant to be our version of Kosi? He's not half the player Kosi is!"

Admittedly our complete lack of forward 50 entries is a massive part of the problem, but unfortunately for big David he has form.....or a track record of zero form.

I feel confident that with a fully fit list we'll rectify the forward 50 entry count, but we'll still need a rethink on the forward line and whether Hale has a part to play in it's revamp. Right now, apart from giving opposition coaches something to consider with matchups, I reckon they feel that he's soft and can be easily nullified.

Definitely time for a change. If he remains in the lineup then the only step now is for him to come off the bench, after the game has unfolded a little, but if he's offering sweet FA still then he's really just clogging up a spot.

He's very fortunate that Tarrant's nowhere near AFL match fit, as I suspect that his goose would be cooked for now if he was!

 

[Rooboy 96]

Are you a member of the Nazi party? Follow blindly to the promised land, do as they say, obey their command, never question their decisions.
You are kidding youself luv

and you questioning decisions made so far above your head really makes a difference... if meganmcinerney wants to follow blindly who are you to criticise???

 

[NMFC Est 1869]

and you questioning decisions made so far above your head really makes a difference... if meganmcinerney wants to follow blindly who are you to criticise???

I'm not criticising, I'm staying true to the philosophical teachings of Socrates who says 'you have a right to question that which you believe may not be true & that just because something is popular or agreed upon by the masses or those in authority doesnt necessarily make it any more truthful' Get an education.

 

[Rooboy 96]

I'm not criticising, I'm staying true to the philosophical teachings of Socrates who says 'you have a right to question that which you believe may not be true & that just because something is popular or agreed upon by the masses or those in authority doesnt necessarily make it any more truthful' Get an education.

I'll get an education when you learn how to use this '

 

[Rooboy 96]

Just realised she barracks for Sydney... kick the friggen crap out of her NMFC Est 1869... I'm with you all the way...

 

[NMFC Est 1869]

Just realised she barracks for Sydney... kick the friggen crap out of her NMFC Est 1869... I'm with you all the way...

Lol

 

[Rooboy 96]

Lol

you know what they say... you can fight with your brother as much as you want... but **** if anyone else touches him...

we are NORTH MELBOURNE...

 

[Mailman]

I thought we re-signed him so we could get maximum value out of the Gold Coast in 2010 and we won't get held to ransom by him being out of contract.

He would have established ruck value and forward value to a new team.

spot on imo

GC cant run around with a team of 18yo's if they want a premiership within 4yrs. They will need experience and they will likely trade over the odds to get what they need, given the obscene number of trades they have been granted.

Locking Hale into a contract is perfect positioning to try and obtain a first round (top 16-17) selection for him.
Is he worth it? probably not. Would they pay it? probably

 

[davefromjerra]

Locking Hale into a contract is perfect positioning to try and obtain a first round (top 16-17) selection for him.
Is he worth it? probably not. Would they pay it? probably

You're dreaming if you think any club would give up a first round pick for David Hale.

 

[1996 gold]

David hale out , john butcher in

 

[RuckRyder]

Nah, I won't. Tackles more than the players I listed but doesn't have the same influence around the ground.

He now has a massive influence on the game and has great versatility. You must add him to that select group. Absolute gem

 

[bellzy]

I thought we re-signed him so we could get maximum value out of the Gold Coast in 2010 and we won't get held to ransom by him being out of contract.

I'm pretty sure this is the case.

The longer the contract of the player the Gold Coast try poach, the higher the draft pick/s received as compensation.

Maybe the club's smarter than we give them credit for?

 

[budge11]

He now has a massive influence on the game and has great versatility. You must add him to that select group. Absolute gem

Nah. Really don't have to.

Get him do to do it for another year or so, then maybe.

 

[krisholio14]

You're dreaming if you think any club would give up a first round pick for David Hale.

Gold Coast are going to have plenty of first rounders to play with, are going to desperately need an experienced big man who is capable of playing ruck and forward, and he's a local lad.

I've seen first rounders traded for far far less.

 

[naturally north]

Gold Coast are going to have plenty of first rounders to play with, are going to desperately need an experienced big man who is capable of playing ruck and forward, and he's a local lad.

I've seen first rounders traded for far far less.

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yeah but we're selling not buying this time

 

[RuckRyder]

Nah. Really don't have to.

Get him do to do it for another year or so, then maybe.

No. You must. Jump on board before the public realise he will be the premier ruckman for the next decade with Kreuzer a close second.

 

[Hoser]

I'm pretty sure this is the case.

The longer the contract of the player the Gold Coast try poach, the higher the draft pick/s received as compensation.

Maybe the club's smarter than we give them credit for?

I sure hope the club is smarter than us, but a few things in this Gold Coast trade scenario worry me.

Firstly the club probably thought they were on a win/win. Sign Hale, if he turns into a gun, we keep him, if he just keeps the same level of performance we trade him for a pick.

Uinfortunately, we have a scenario now of him underperforming and we are in a lose/lose. We either drop him from the team and therefore diminish his trade value. Or we keep playing an out of form player, damaging the team onfield.

Worse still, if we keep playing him, we are potentially damaging the development of one or our current players already on the list. We are damaging this players development based on a "theory" that we are going to get a top 10 pick, and further, that the top 10 pick will turn into a gun for us.

Risky strategy this one. We have seen enough past top 10 picks turn into nothing. Why wouldn't we be examining a current list players potential right now, rather than betting on a potential top ten pick for 2011 who we then will have to spend time finding out about anyway.

 

[Joshen]

I sure hope the club is smarter than us, but a few things in this Gold Coast trade scenario worry me.

Firstly the club probably thought they were on a win/win. Sign Hale, if he turns into a gun, we keep him, if he just keeps the same level of performance we trade him for a pick.

Uinfortunately, we have a scenario now of him underperforming and we are in a lose/lose. We either drop him from the team and therefore diminish his trade value. Or we keep playing an out of form player, damaging the team onfield.

Worse still, if we keep playing him, we are potentially damaging the development of one or our current players already on the list. We are damaging this players development based on a "theory" that we are going to get a top 10 pick, and further, that the top 10 pick will turn into a gun for us.

Risky strategy this one. We have seen enough past top 10 picks turn into nothing. Why wouldn't we be examining a current list players potential right now, rather than betting on a potential top ten pick for 2011 who we then will have to spend time finding out about anyway.

I was thinking the same thing and my solution was; fake minor injuries every now and then so he gets dropped from the team to make way for a younger player.

And while he is recovering from his "injury" he plays VFL and dominates and so prooves to the GC team what a great player he is.

 

[Hoser]

Interesting thread on main board about Tippett and his contract with Adelaide. If true and keen to return to QLD this raises some serious questions about the Hale/trade bait strategy.

GC17 faced with the prospect of finding big men are presented with Hale and Tippett both on the table, what level is our David valued at. GC17 suddenly in the strong negotiating position of being able to play one club against another, therefore offering lessor trade picks. Further, who are they likely to be more interested in? The answer possibly even further eroding our trade value.

 

[Devil Fish]

Yes, I know we have re-signed him (fu*k knows why, sign Warren & Urhq's first) Is there a worse/more ineffective player running around at the minute getting a game each week? Hate to say it (can't believe I'm saying it) but I would almost prefer to have Leroy still out there for us instead

Ease up. The Zebra will tell you Big Men Take Time. It's just Hales watch is broken. He's played at least 8-9 really good games so far in his career & I reckon that's just the tip of the ice-berg.

But you're right, why we re-signed him til 2013 is beyond me also.

 

[fairdinkum]

Will Edwards cop the same flak as Buddy Hale?

 

[Alan_Shore]

Probably not because he at least has a crack and works his ass off to provide a target.

 

[muttley45]

Will Edwards cop the same flak as Buddy Hale?

hes probably already overtaken hale in some stats in a 1/4 of the games,does at least compete

 

[Devil Fish]

His hard leading would've straightened us up & given us a target up forward.