Essendon FC + ONE other PLAYER at ONE OTHER club being investigated RE: Doping

[Grockadoc]

Who is Richmond's Football Manager?

Craig Cameron. Very suspicious timing if true.

 

[Ceebee]

More like LOL media.

They are doing a good job of having their heads in the sand.
Page 9, inside the Sunday Mail, come Rugby league sponsors paper.
If it was 6 AFL teams, they would have had it front and backpage.
Only time we ever get that, is if it is bad stuff.
Sickening really.
Politics and media,what a combination.

 

[Purple Suit]

"CF", you are the one being naive to think your "feeling" and blatant baseless assumptions outweigh those of an AFL CEO who was not only standing next to the ACC board of directors at the time - but also has direct communicative connections to the ACC, ASADA and the Essendon Football Club.

You can say whatever you like, but your opinion is sourceless. Your assumption is as meaningless as the fingers on your keyboard.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/...vestigation-into-essendon-20130207-2e0cu.htmlhttp://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/...vestigation-into-essendon-20130207-2e0cu.html

As far as facts are concerned, the Essendon investigation was a self initiated investigation, with the request for the AFL and ASADA to become involved in helping it move forward. As such, both this investigation, as well as a target-tested investigation initiated by the ACC at another club, makes up what we have now.

Whether or not you choose to hold opinion over matter, that is your own problem to deal with.

The investigation was self initiated before the ACC report, but I can't find any media reports that state Essendon were only in the report due to dobbing themselves in. Therefore, it is logical to assume they were secretly under investigation by the ACC and ASADA before they called in the dogs. The report took 12 months to compile, not 3 days.

It's a great coincidence that Essendon discovered their own bad systems just days before the report came out without any knowledge of it.

 

[kaiserchief13]

So which Richmond player has played his last AFL game?

 

[rdhopkins2]

Cameron is quitting Richmond to take up a horse racing industry position?

 

[XYZ123]

Australian reporting Cameron leaving to be CE of BC3 Thoroughbreads.

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/sport...meron-quits-club/story-fnca0u4y-1226574865978

 

[Grockadoc]

Cameron is quitting Richmond to take up a horse racing industry position?

Yeah, is his dream job, apparently. Is going to become Chief Executive at BC3 Thoroughbreds. Won't begrudge him for leaving us, for his dream job, but the timing was very awkward.

 

[jko'neal]

So which Richmond player has played his last AFL game?

LOL

 

[Purple Suit]

So which Richmond player has played his last AFL game?

1+1=5

 

[AWOL]

Fairly sure that GMc said that player x was not on an AFL list in 2013.

 

[Jakko]

God I hope its not Monfries. Would be a kick in the guts to lose him when Ports done nothing wrong.

 

[lock33]

Cameron is quitting Richmond to take up a horse racing industry position?

Dustin Martin was just on the radio about all this, his reply was "NAAAAAY"

 

[CF]

The investigation was self initiated before the ACC report, but I can't find any media reports that state Essendon were only in the report due to dobbing themselves in. Therefore, it is logical to assume they were secretly under investigation by the ACC and ASADA before they called in the dogs. The report took 12 months to compile, not 3 days.

It's a great coincidence that Essendon discovered their own bad systems just days before the report came out without any knowledge of it.

Exactly! Couldn't have put it better myself. I admire people wanting to support their club but it is extremely naive to think Essendon didn't know they were about to be busted. The ACC would have been questioning people over the last 12 months and word would have got around. We also know that Dank was being investigated long before Essendon put their hand up so it's logical that the ACC would have been scrutinising Essendon at the same time since he worked there in 2012.

I hope it all turns out OK for Essendon. I'm not trying to troll them or run them down. I agree we need to wait and see what the final facts are. But for me (on this issue at least) there's no way in hell that the ACC didn't know about Essendon until they turned themselves in. No way in hell.

 

[The Anchorite]

Fairly sure that GMc said that player x was not on an AFL list in 2013.

Hmmmmmmm.

 

[CAS79]

God I hope its not Monfries. Would be a kick in the guts to lose him when Ports done nothing wrong.

If there are player sanctions for those involved in a dodgy program and Monfries was part of it he will have to have same penalties imposed.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Fairly sure that GMc said that player x was not on an AFL list in 2013.

Pretty convenient isn't it....the AFL get all the credit for being tough on drugs without having to deal with awkward stuff like suspending a current player......

 

[Jakko]

If there are player sanctions for those involved in a dodgy program and Monfries was part of it he will have to have same penalties imposed.

I agree and would support any penalty. Its still a kick in the guts for a club who traded for him in good faith.

 

[jonbe54]

I agree and would support any penalty. Its still a kick in the guts for a club who traded for him in good faith.

That club should then sue.

 

[Daytripper]

Exactly! Couldn't have put it better myself. I admire people wanting to support their club but it is extremely naive to think Essendon didn't know they were about to be busted. The ACC would have been questioning people over the last 12 months and word would have got around. We also know that Dank was being investigated long before Essendon put their hand up so it's logical that the ACC would have been scrutinising Essendon at the same time since he worked there in 2012.

I hope it all turns out OK for Essendon. I'm not trying to troll them or run them down. I agree we need to wait and see what the final facts are. But for me (on this issue at least) there's no way in hell that the ACC didn't know about Essendon until they turned themselves in. No way in hell.

The only problem with this little 'conspiracy theory' is that Ian Robson was announced as one of 3 people to look at the AFL's drug policy only 2 weeks prior.

Firstly, why would Robson put himself up for this position knowing his club would have their own crisis not soon after?
Secondly, why would the AFL appoint him knowing the same thing?

Sometimes things are just what they are.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

So which Richmond player has played his last AFL game?

Hopefully Daniel Jackson. Not for drug related reasons though.

 

[CF]

The only problem with this little 'conspiracy theory' is that Ian Robson was announced as one of 3 people to look at the AFL's drug policy only 2 weeks prior.

Firstly, why would Robson put himself up for this position knowing his club would have their own crisis not soon after?
Secondly, why would the AFL appoint him knowing the same thing?

Sometimes things are just what they are.

The alternative of course is that the admin of Essendon didn't know about it until they said, but the footy dept knew about it all along. So that would work in with what you say. How did the board find out if not for a tip off? Once they seen what shit they were in they had no choice but to turn themselves in.

But I'm willing to bet that if Essendon hadn't of turned themselves in they still would have been named. The investigation has been pretty thorough.

 

[morgoth]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-10/two-clubs-under-cloud

So basically that's it, after all that piss and wind.

1. Essendon FC: Have been administering substances to players in 2012 that may or may not be prohibited. The players have been mislead as to the exact nature of the substances.

2. ONE other PLAYER at ONE OTHER club: A club other than the EFC has a player being closely investigated by WADA + AFL.

This the allegations linked to performance enhancing drugs.

We still have the illicit/rec drugs to come out. That will be obviously far wider spread and where 'criminals' will come into it as you do buy drugs from dealers who are crims. I suspect my club to be quite involved once this phase starts with one or two other pretty obvious suspects.

Players do drugs is not something new.

 

[jonbe54]

This the allegations linked to performance enhancing drugs.

We still have the illicit/rec drugs to come out. That will be obviously far wider spread and where 'criminals' will come into it as you do buy drugs from dealers who are crims. I suspect my club to be quite involved once this phase starts with one or two other pretty obvious suspects.

Players do drugs is not something new.

Yep there will be pain enough for everyone

 

[Daytripper]

The alternative of course is that the admin of Essendon didn't know about until they said, but the footy dept knew about it all along. So that would work in with what you say.

But I'm willing to bet that if Essendon hadn't of turned themselves in they still would have been named. The investigation has been pretty thorough.

Is that what you call it?

There have been no details, no specifics and its taken them 12 months to produce a glossy little report that effectively says a lot about nothing.

Wake me up when someone gets charged and some evidence gets produced.

 

[Doggy doo doo]

Yeah, is his dream job, apparently. Is going to become Chief Executive at BC3 Thoroughbreds. Won't begrudge him for leaving us, for his dream job, but the timing was very awkward.

Steroid testing with horses is easier to get away with