List Mgmt. General Trade/Draft/Free Agency Discussion/Speculation

[S120]

Yeh probably so.

I'm glad no changes have been made to the rookie list so far. I think we have a very strong group of rookies who could be very useful senior list players. Rampe will get elevated, Biggs, Jack, X.Richards all played seniors and will probably be kept on consequently, Lloyd and Robinson were talked up all year by the coaches and Naismith would be worth another year of development surely.

 

[grimlock]

Don't we have to make space for that American rookie?

 

[S120]

International rookies are outside the rookie list aren't they?

 

[grimlock]

International rookies are outside the rookie list aren't they?

http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/rookie-players

 

[S120]

So we don't need to make room then I suppose.

 

[grimlock]

So we don't need to make room then I suppose.

I think our cat B is full if we don't promote or delist one of Jack, Robinson or Naismith.

 

[jpkennedy]

I, for one, will be mega pissed if Mummy leaves.

 

[strauchanie59]

I thought first rounders were on 3 year deals and then the rest are 2 years?

 

[Tippett2Goal]

If mummy does leave (as ive said in another thread) Callum Sinclair would be a ready made replacement imo, stuck behind nicnat and cox at the eagles.

 

[M F JONES]

According to SEN, Saints are pretty roo**ted financially! Along with Watters not resonating with the older brigade, I would certainly investigate Fisher across our HB line, he's probably 175 yrs old, but a bloody great player who could add a bit of dash, perhaps a swap with Armstrong?

 

[Lazar Goz]

I know alot of things could happen with maybe Lamb leaving or others retiring but this is what im looking at leading up to list management and changes currently:

Out: 5 Players or 6 If Mumford goes.

1.Bolton
2.Mattner
3.Morton
4.A.Brown
5.White
________

6.Mumford?

7.Walsh (Delisted?)
8.Lockyer (Has he shown enough to hold down a spot on our list)
9.Dick (Same as Lockyer)

In:
14 Gardiner
18 (Mumfords Pick) Salem, Dumont, Marsh
27 (Jesse Whites Pick) Mitch Thorp or Dayle Gartlett
31: Lobb, D.Cameron
49: Lloyd Perris
67: Dane Rampe

What does everybody think?

 

[TheMase]

Signing a third round pick to a 3 year deal doesn't sound like smart list management to me. I understand the reasoning behind it, to try and help the young fellow settle down in an interstate club, but it can lead to situations similar to what's happening now with an inflexible list.

We probably didn't. I do recall Lockyer got an immediate contract extension to 3 years after a strong initial preseason (could be wrong). Brown was probably never extended and finished his two year initial contract.

 

[replicant]

Lockyer was ok, from what i saw (admit it wasn't much). Would prefer him over X, who seemed a bit fumbly and a poor kick.

Bit harsh on Dick too. He's only had a year, and was pretty slender when he got here. Deserves at least one more season with a bit more size and confidence to see if he's got it.

Walsh can go.

 

[bedford]

According to SEN, Saints are pretty roo**ted financially! Along with Watters not resonating with the older brigade, I would certainly investigate Fisher across our HB line, he's probably 175 yrs old, but a bloody great player who could add a bit of dash, perhaps a swap with Armstrong?

Fisher is another one in the Martin mould, don't need scum at the Bloods

 

[Punts]

I know alot of things could happen with maybe Lamb leaving or others retiring but this is what im looking at leading up to list management and changes currently:

Out: 5 Players or 6 If Mumford goes.

1.Bolton
2.Mattner
3.Morton
4.A.Brown
5.White
________

6.Mumford?

7.Walsh (Delisted?)
8.Lockyer (Has he shown enough to hold down a spot on our list)
9.Dick (Same as Lockyer)

In:
14 Gardiner
18 (Mumfords Pick) Salem, Dumont, Marsh
27 (Jesse Whites Pick) Mitch Thorp or Dayle Gartlett
31: Lobb, D.Cameron
49: Lloyd Perris
67: Dane Rampe

What does everybody think?

Add Everitt and Lamb that are not signed and its starting to look like last year with all the players we got rid off

 

[bedford]

I hate this thread every year, as none of us really know, its all bullshit talk, but that's BF

 

[M F JONES]

Fisher is another one in the Martin mould, don't need scum at the Bloods

Happy to take your word on it,
however that's a pretty strong allegation against someone's character, anything to back that up with?
And yes I agree with this time of year about trade week/period, however what goes on here is really no different to what gets reported in the press, 1001 trades get bandied about and only a handful ever go through, but helps fill some void of no games, I generally take it with a grain of salt until it's locked,sealed and completed, just have fun with it.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Happy to take your word on it,
however that's a pretty strong allegation against someone's character, anything to back that up with?
And yes I agree with this time of year about trade week/period, however what goes on here is really no different to what gets reported in the press, 1001 trades get bandied about and only a handful ever go through, but helps fill some void of no games, I generally take it with a grain of salt until it's locked,sealed and completed, just have fun with it.

Fairly well known fact

 

[RobbieK]

Colin Sylvia?

About to turn 28, been down the last season or so at a terrible club going nowhere but can clearly play. Damaging midfielder who can get forward. Free agent.

Chapman has been mentioned a few times - Syvlia is four years younger than him...

 

[M F JONES]

Fairly well known fact

Still a fairly strong accusation and that adds no substance, but for the sake of this thread, I'll take both your words on it and accept that is the case.

 

[Sydswans0512]

Colin Sylvia?

About to turn 28, been down the last season or so at a terrible club going nowhere but can clearly play. Damaging midfielder who can get forward. Free agent.

Chapman has been mentioned a few times - Syvlia is four years younger than him...

He's terrible one of the most inconsistent footballers getting around

 

[Sydswans0512]

Fisher is another one in the Martin mould, don't need scum at the Bloods

Fisher is a really good guy but his foot is fooked!

 

[Sanecow]

Sooo, Buddy?!?

 

[Inertia]

Sooo, Buddy?!?

99.9% sure we're losing Mumford and White now. Would be hilarious if the GWS twitter was hacked and everyone went into meltdown for no reason.

 

[alanlau34]

OMG, Goodes lied right to Punts' face!!!

I have mixed feels, from a purely Swans perspective I love it, and will be especially extra early to book flights for late September.

There's no doubting that this will cause a massive shitstorm of epic and biblical proportions, and from that sense I'd rather the Swans not be a part of it.