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Ummmm....yeah :eek: That was weird.

Though there was one comment in there that almost makes up for all the kool aid inspired idiocy:

In the beginning I was prepared to give those responsible, primarily James Hird, the benefit of the doubt, in that the Club simply sought to improve it's sports science capabilities, but chose the wrong person (Dank) to do it. I was prepared to forgive the Club for not being far more diligent when performing referee checks on Mr Dank. Until the current court case, I was still prepared to give the Club the benefit of the doubt, despite the untold damage this saga has caused the us. Damage being kicked out of the finals, loss of draft picks, the financial cost incurred (remembering that Ess members gave money out of their own pocket to building our new training facility) and the personal insults directed at myself as an Ess fan, from supporters of other clubs. But that all changed the day James stated in court words to the effect of 'the sports science dept didn't come under my area of responsibility'. After everything that's happened and may still happen, for James to say that was unforgivable in terms of accepting responsibility for the events which occurred in 2012. My question(s) therefore are: 1. If our best players simply walk out on us due to the duty of care clause in their contract, will James take any responsibility for that? 2. Having been comprehensively unsuccessful in our court proceedings instigated by us, why are we even considering an appeal given that it's no chance of being successful and doing so will incurr further (substantial) legal costs, after the millions spent/wasted already by the club. 3. If our best players walk out, will James's position become immediately untenable and as such, will he either step down, or be dismissed by the Board? I loved James as a player. He was the person responsilbe for me changing from an NRL fan, to an AFL fan in the mid 90's. If it weren't for him, I'd probably still be an NRL fan. I was thrilled when James 'came home' to coach us. However, I believe that he should stand aside as coach. I hold James ultimately responsible for the 2012 supplement program and when others have resigned their positions along the way and taken responsibility for their role in the saga, James hasn't and it's time he did, considering the outcome of the court case and the damage done to the club in it's totality over the past 2 years. I believe that while ever James remains at the Club, we'll continue to be 'slaughtered' regularly in the media and us (the fans) will be the ones that suffer as a result. In saying that, I haven't forgotten the suffering endured by our wonderful players for over 2 years now. I also believe that if Paul Little and the Board sanction further futile court challenges and appeals, imposing further hefty legal costs on the Club, that an EGM be called and a motion be moved for the dismissal of Mr Little and the current Board.

I'll pay that.
 
The Leader episode of the Simpsons is on Channel 11 right now.

Perfect.
The leader* is good, the leader* is great, we* surrender our* will as of this date.
 

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I'm waiting for the inevitable BF civil war between Jab*, Doss* v Lance* v Rines*, Beerfish*, Jade* and co*.
My money is on Doss and Jab.

Doss is like

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Oh dear the donialism just grows and grows. Why would Wingard want to go near a *club with the ethics (or lack thereof) of the *essendon fc?

From what we know of Chad Wingard, he would retire and go back to play with his mates in local footy rather than end up at *.
 

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It's an ambit claim, negotiation 101. Will mean **** all when Paddy walks for next to zilch.

Negotiation 102 - Ambit claims are absolutely pointless when you have bugger all bargaining power. Generally only people deluded by their own sense of arrogance would bother to give it a try.
 
I've been reminded of this statement recently:

"Dank’s lawyer, Greg Stanton, said if any charges were eventually laid, his client would challenge ASADA’s jurisdiction and the scientific basis for including peptides such as CJC1295, SARMS and Thymosin Beta-4 on a banned list"

So, if you find out that I injected the players with this shit, then I'll challenge the scientific basis of the charge because, you know, I'm Stephen ****ing Dank and I know all.

That is such a small comment, but holy ****, does it speak a million words.
 
I've been reminded of this statement recently:



So, if you find out that I injected the players with this shit, then I'll challenge the scientific basis of the charge because, you know, I'm Stephen ******* Dank and I know all.

That is such a small comment, but holy ****, does it speak a million words.
Seriously? Anyone done for DUI to challenge the .05 limit and say "Look, it's .08 elsewhere, that's enough".

What about jaywalking? I reckon that's challengeable.
 

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I've been reminded of this statement recently:



So, if you find out that I injected the players with this shit, then I'll challenge the scientific basis of the charge because, you know, I'm Stephen ******* Dank and I know all.

That is such a small comment, but holy ****, does it speak a million words.

Ha. What that says to me is that *Dank basically admits that he gave them banned substances but in his opinion it was ok because they should never have been banned in the first place. All that has to happen is for ASADA to prove what Dank already knows. The comment also says volumes about why * are in this mess and why it has played out the way it has, rather than playing out with any sense of rationality.

The only problem that "I'm Steven ****ing Dank and you're not" misses is that even if he is shown to be correct, all you achieve is getting the substances off the banned list going forwards. But that doesn't change the fact that the substances were banned at that time and therefore could not be administered. Players still screwed.
 
Ha. What that says to me is that *Dank basically admits that he gave them banned substances but in his opinion it was ok because they should never have been banned in the first place. All that has to happen is for ASADA to prove what Dank already knows. The comment also says volumes about why * are in this mess and why it has played out the way it has, rather than playing out with any sense of rationality.

The only problem that "I'm Steven ******* Dank and you're not" misses is that even if he is shown to be correct, all you achieve is getting the substances off the banned list going forwards. But that doesn't change the fact that the substances were banned at that time and therefore could not be administered. Players still screwed.
Danks arrogance + Hirds arrogance + natural tendency of * for born to rule arrogance = destructive Ebola virus of arrogance rending asunder anything it touches
 
So, if you find out that I injected the players with this shit, then I'll challenge the scientific basis of the charge because, you know, I'm Stephen ******* Dank and I know all.

That is such a small comment, but holy ****, does it speak a million words.
This is really dumb. Dank should know that banned substances have no direct relationship with useful purpose. Look what the government bans/restricts:

Opiates - routinely used for medical purposes/in hospitals
Cocaine - routinely used for medical purposes
Ketamine - routinely used for medical purposes
THC/Cannabis - known and documented therapeutic benefits
Psilocybin (i.e., 'magic mushrooms') - clincially proven to assist terminally ill patients
MDMA (i.e., 'ecstasy') - clinically proven to assist with trauma patients suffering from PTSD and other ailments
LSD - proven to have reduced alcoholism for chronic alcoholics (and other benefits, same goes for other psychedelics)

The list goes on and on...

A list is a list. It's either on it, or it isn't on it. If he gave them substances on the list then the ASADA code has been breached. End of story. If he thinks he can win the argument in court then I'd like him to challenge the government's prohibition of acid.
 
This is really dumb. Dank should know that banned substances have no direct relationship with useful purpose. Look what the government bans/restricts:

Opiates - routinely used for medical purposes/in hospitals
Cocaine - routinely used for medical purposes
Ketamine - routinely used for medical purposes
THC/Cannabis - known and documented therapeutic benefits
Psilocybin (i.e., 'magic mushrooms') - clincially proven to assist terminally ill patients
MDMA (i.e., 'ecstasy') - clinically proven to assist with trauma patients suffering from PTSD and other ailments
LSD - proven to have reduced alcoholism for chronic alcoholics (and other benefits, same goes for other psychedelics)

The list goes on and on...

A list is a list. It's either on it, or it isn't on it. If he gave them substances on the list then the ASADA code has been breached. End of story. If he thinks he can win the argument in court then I'd like him to challenge the government's prohibition of acid.

Excellent point. This is just bravado by Dank and abject stupidity by his laywer to say it.
 
I've been reminded of this statement recently:

"Dank’s lawyer, Greg Stanton, said if any charges were eventually laid, his client would challenge ASADA’s jurisdiction and the scientific basis for including peptides such as CJC1295, SARMS and Thymosin Beta-4 on a banned list"

So, if you find out that I injected the players with this shit, then I'll challenge the scientific basis of the charge because, you know, I'm Stephen ******* Dank and I know all.

That is such a small comment, but holy ****, does it speak a million words.

I have long suspected that Dank has ASADA over a barrel on AOD9604 on the basis of the compounding pharmacist / doctor's prescription exemption to legal use of non-approved substances otherwise banned under S.0 of the WADA code. He outsmarted the world on that one but got caught messing with substances that were specifically listed under S2. So now he is arguing that the compounding pharmacist has scientifically concocted a substance altogether dissimilar to CJC1295, SARMS and Thymosin Beta-4. Good luck with that one.
 
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