Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[magic.merkin]

Not sure. Is it cool to boo him when he incites the crowd with a celebration spear? Or it that also vilification?

I'm worried for Australia if people felt vilified, threatened or incited by an Aboriginal man performing an aboriginal act in an Indigenous themed round. All the while not actually following through with the pretend throw of a BOOMERANG.

How do these people cope on New Years when there's fireworks going off out of the blue?

 

[Eshay187]

It is partly about race. Goodes played the racist card when he is the one who brought it into the game in the first place see spear into crowd.

that makes no sense.

 

[kaiserchief13]

He is celebrating his culture on a round that the AFL is celebrating "indigenous round". What is wrong with that? Do you feel morally outraged he did a dance that was dedicated to the under 16s?

He made the round about him. He didn't let Jetta do anything with him or any of the opposition players did he? All about me me me

 

[gangsta deluxe]

He isn't though, so it doesn't actually matter if he thinks it is because it clearly isn't. It's booing, not racist insults. I've seen plenty of athletes cop far worse.

If the Pro-Goodes side had just come out the first time and respectfully asked the booing to slow down because it was affecting him mentally then a lot of it would have stopped now, but instead they decided to label everyone a racist and bigot. Trying to bully people with insults and threats to stop wasn't a very bright idea. You and Goodes have only made things worse.

I see how you speak for all people involved in the booing, like you know none are racist.

Some, but not all, are demonstrably racist. To deny otherwise is to delude yourself, and to continue booing aware of that makes you someone who is knowingly supporting their cause.

 

[Fletched]

Anyone who suggests that anyone who boos is a racist or a bigot is a complete moron.

You have absolutely no way of conclusively proving it's true.

You have no way of proving its not

 

[NSWCROW]

Well how bout answering the question, where did you get the information 50% of Australians support and the other 50% disagree the reason Goodes is being booed is because of racism.

Oh you STILL mad about the fact it's not going all your way ??


50%




And it burns BURNS BURRRRRNSSSS........

 

[Flash of power]

how did he handle it poorly?

Read back over 425 pages, I'm sure it will become apparent.

 

[kfc1]

Read the question ?

Close your eyes and imagine if Walsh was black would we have seen the same out pouring of emotion ?

You really think we wouldn't see a massive outpouring of emotion if Franklin, Burgoyne, Rioli turn up dead one morning in the middle of the footy season, murdered by a family member?

 

[Hardhat11]

No.....Most would say you are lost in obfuscation & complexity.



It's pretty obvious that you so desperately need me to be in order to feel justified.....I'm Sorry to disappoint your presumptions precious.

Yes I go and each day work with aboriginal people to help them in life

Maybe I have a heart and understand the complex issues they face

Sorry for the positive view

Clearly too tough for you to handle .....another white fella like you confronted with a different view ......

Adam Goodes wouldn't be booed if he was white

 

[campbell]

He isn't though, so it doesn't actually matter if he thinks it is because it clearly isn't. It's booing, not racist insults. I've seen plenty of athletes cop far worse.

If the Pro-Goodes side had just come out the first time and respectfully asked the booing to slow down because it was affecting him mentally then a lot of it would have stopped now, but instead they decided to label everyone a racist and bigot. Trying to bully people with insults and threats to stop wasn't a very bright idea. You and Goodes have only made things worse.

I think you need to take a step back and look at what racial vilification is.

IF a player feels like that, then that is it.

your thoughts on the matter are irrelevant, his feelings are paramount in this.

 

[LoungeLizard]

No but some are. And when people boo with them it adds to what they are trying to do to Goodes.

If you know that and keep doing it then you are actively supporting the racists.

Or maybe they know it affects his thinking, so therefore could put him off his game.
But no, it MUST be racism because he is black.
I just wonder why them same racists don't boo every coloured person playing afl

 

[year of the cat]

Anyone who suggests that anyone who boos is a racist or a bigot is a complete moron.

You have absolutely no way of conclusively proving it's true.

He is saying now that anyone who boos Goodes is a racist. He's drawn a line in the sand. After all this public commentary it's self-evident. If anyone continues to boo Goodes they are clearly a racist.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Yes I go and each day work with aboriginal people to help them in life

Maybe I have a heart and understand the complex issues they face
Sorry for the positive view
Clearly too tough for you to handle .....another white fella like you confronted with a different view ......
Adam Goodes wouldn't be booed if he was white

HOW ON EARTH DO YOU PRESUME TO KNOW THE COLOR OF MY SKIN?

 

[Lebbo73]

Last I checked footy is a past-time, whereas racism is a political issue....People go to the footy to forget about such things, only to have Goodsey rub it in their faces with the AFL's blessing.

GEE I wonder what has inspired all this booing?

The IOC doesn't allow acts of or political statements. Obviously the AFL has a different belief.

 

[NSWCROW]

Hey Bazzar

Of course that's the REAL issue here isn't it.......

 

[SeaWind]

You have no way of proving its not

Yes, and? Do you hear me making baseless, defamatory claims?

Again, if you claim anyone who boos is a racist, you yourself are an obnoxious bigot. You have absolutely no way of knowing why people are booing.

 

[HoopsAhoy]

Hey we have Abbott, Packer and Baird on side.

You must be desperate then!

 

[subaru]

yeah it's horrible when you are frightened by an imaginary spear and difficult to know how to retaliate to protect yourself adequately

mmm...but I thought this was all about how the person perceives the insult - or does that only work one way ?

 

[Scoopar]

I was just reflecting on all this and thought...."I wonder what Adam Goodes wants right now?"

My guess would be that Adam would want everyone to just shut up about it and let him be able to get back to playing footy.

So I'm tuning out - no more comment about the issue anywhere and I certainly won't be reading any social media about it for a week.

One week ban starts now.

Time to focus on something more constructive.

So catch ya later.

 

[year of the cat]

Yes, and? Do you hear me making baseless, defamatory claims?

Again, if you claim anyone who boos is a racist, you yourself are an obnoxious bigot. You have absolutely no way of knowing why people are booing.

You don't get it.

 

[peppy la pew]

Pete KILLIN it ATM

get around him.

Is that a celebration or a war dance

 

[Docker Alyssa]

IT WAS A DEDICATION TO THE UNDER 16s!!!

So what you are saying is the war dance he displayed was in no way a "traditional" dance dating back to any tribe or community of his ancestral heritage?

Gotcha.

 

[kfc1]

Adam Goodes wouldn't be booed if he was white

wut

 

[SeaWind]

He is saying now that anyone who boos Goodes is a racist. He's drawn a line in the sand. After all this public commentary it's self-evident. If anyone continues to boo Goodes they are clearly a racist.

That's not any less stupid or obnoxious. You can never emphatically claim anyone who boos is a racist, be it in the past or the future.

 

[Mcveigh]

Australia, white people telling the indigenous what is and is not racist. Since 1788.