2017 Non Crows AFL Discussion Thread - Part IV A New Hope

[Elite Crow]

This time 2 years ago the 'experts' had us taking a tumble down the ladder due to losing the games best player.

This time last year there were doubts we could improve and withstand the inevitable GWS surge and impending Dogs dynasty.

Yet here we are.

We haven't won anything you're quite right, but we are in a good position to do so. It's clear our system is one of the best going around. Hawthorn lost players quite a bit in their years (mostly due to retirement) but they always found another one either via draft or trades.

Losing 2 of our best young players in the one hit won't be great should it eventuate, and clearly we need to find out why this is a regular occurance. Is it just money ?? And if it is why are we so comfortable in doing what we do when it appears detrimental.

Would we be better had we kept Danger?

As for the Hawks they've attracted quality players, the recent players we've brought in are Seedsman, Menzel, Hampton and Gore. None established best 22.

 

[Glenno23]

How many times can we rely on recruiting finding players late and in cat b rookies to save our inability to hold talent?

Well Hamish said he's not leaving until the "job is done" (Flag)

So while he's around, i'm confident we'll continue to recruit good players with lower picks. And if he leaves, we've more than likely won a flag, so i'll be ok with that too!

 

[subaru]

I am not sure why you are so hung up on "keeping players".

If they are keeping a group like Geelong and Hawthorn during their Premiership years I could understand your angst

But they aren't. And they have actively tried to break this group up and the industry said "No thanks".

I have come to a point where I don't care if players leave as I have confidence in our club to remain strong.



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[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Would we be better had we kept Danger?

As for the Hawks they've attracted quality players, the recent players we've brought in are Seedsman, Menzel, Hampton and Gore. None established best 22.

Gore is best 22 for the SANFL team....probably.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Haha just found out Pittard has signed a 3 year extension at Port. Oh Port, will you ever change? bahahahahahaha

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

How soon will Port try to trade Pittard?

Just wondering whether they'll regret this one more than the Lobbe, Hartlett, Broadbent contracts.

 

[GROTTO]

Cant believe that NM are trying to get Dusty on a $2m deal. Seriously ffs they are not just one player away from being a decent team.

 

[jenny61_99]

Who have they lost?

And the point is even more valid if you think he's a spud and has turned down a bigger contract. What does that say about their culture?

It says that they lied about getting better offers?

 

[Elite Crow]

How soon will Port try to trade Pittard?

Just wondering whether they'll regret this one more than the Lobbe, Hartlett, Broadbent contracts.

Fingers crossed Trengove stays but I have a feeling they are pushing him out the door to get a decent compo pick

 

[Tyls83]

How soon will Port try to trade Pittard?

Just wondering whether they'll regret this one more than the Lobbe, Hartlett, Broadbent contracts.

The emergence of Byrne-Jones means they now have two identical players. Smacks of "no-one wants to leave us" chest puffing PR exercise.

 

[Elite Crow]

It says that they lied about getting better offers?

Yeah that's the more plausible explanation, it can't be they are good at retaining their players

 

[jenny61_99]

Nick Riewoldt on On The Coach was good. As you'd expect.

Which Coach was he on?

 

[GROTTO]

Lost by 97 in that one

Never been beaten by 100 at home

We've lost 9 games in our history by 100 or more. Freo have had 3 this year!

At the Dome under the roof in sterile conditions with the Dons needing to win to secure finals.

Expect another.

 

[FantasticShirt]

* I hate Kane Cornes, but Port certainly do have a much greater track record of maintaining players. While we're league leaders in losing A grade talent...

Maybe we need a better before game song? The towel thing didn't work, maybe some better hats?

 

[GreyCrow]

Cant believe that NM are trying to get Dusty on a $2m deal. Seriously ffs they are not just one player away from being a decent team.

Their warchest is bigger than ours

FFS NM have had 3 $9m offers in the last 3 years and havent landed the big fish. Its not money sometimes

 

[jenny61_99]

Yeah that's the more plausible explanation, it can't be they are good at retaining their players

Well s**t. Why don't you join Port Adelaide... you seem to love and admire what they do so much? Fair dinkum, if they remotely had any good players (well ok, one or two) and were going for back to back premierships, you MIGHT have a case.... but they are s**t - on AND off the field, have been for a few years, and their players stay BECAUSE NO-ONE ELSE WANTS THEM. Our players are in demand because.... you fill in the blanks.

 

[GreyCrow]

**** I hate Kane Cornes, but Port certainly do have a much greater track record of maintaining players. While we're league leaders in losing A grade talent...

Maybe we need a better before game song? The towel thing didn't work, maybe some better hats?

Theres your answer

 

[PrideOf]

History is repeating down the road ...

Lobbe signs a mega contract: "We've secured the best ruckman in the comp! For five years! Confidence in Port Adelaide Football!"

Hartlett signs a mega contract: "We've kept a gun! Offers flying from everywhere! And for five years!"

Broadbent signs a big contract: "Another superstar stays at Alberton! Destination club!"

Now Pittard signs a THREE-YEAR DEAL!: "We don't lose our star players! Powah clap-clap-clap Powah clap-clap-clap!"


All of them were overpaid. All of them got too long a term.

8 weeks ago they wanted Pittard scrapped. Now he's been signed for THREE YEARS!

Port aren't a destination club. They're an easy target for managers who know just how to push the right buttons that make the Power knee-jerk in reaction and get overs for their clients. And all so they can bullshit on with how good they are at keeping their players. This is the cost.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Fingers crossed Trengove stays but I have a feeling they are pushing him out the door to get a decent compo pick

Which clubs out there are dumb enough to offer Trengove a big contract?

He's SANFL standard.

 

[PrideOf]

Which clubs out there are dumb enough to offer Trengove a big contract?

He's SANFL standard.

Port.

"Re-signed big Jackson Trengove! One-club player! Port Adelaide football!"

 

[Scorpus]

I would have happily let Pittard and Trengove leave. So I hope both stay on some nice fat contracts

 

[Paladin]

Port have a heap of defenders KP and running smalls. Surely they would gave been better off not offering Pittard and Trengove contracts - banking the draft picks and using the salary cap space on another missing piece.

 

[baldandbroke]

I always thought I understood footy. I've been around the sport since before I could walk, and grew up in a very AFL family with very deep links to the game.

But apparently the game has changed.

I didn't realise the aim of the game was to keep players in your list until they retire.

I thought it was about winning games of football, and most importantly, winning finals games of football.

Here I was, sitting in my delusion that winning the premiership would be a success... When actually, losing players will wipe out any positives from the season, and replace it with the shame of poor culture.

The experts will look back at 2017 in years to come and revere those teams that re-signed the most players... No one will care who won the flag. No one ever does.

This is only scratching the surface, I have so much to learn about things like what draft picks you have traded for, which players nominate you for trades ... and other TRUE indicators of success.

Lucky I am on Big Footy... so many wise minds to teach me these new ways.



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**** I hate Kane Cornes, but Port certainly do have a much greater track record of maintaining players. While we're league leaders in losing A grade talent...

Maybe we need a better before game song? The towel thing didn't work, maybe some better hats?

It was pretty sad hearing Kane trying to claim that Shittard was on the same level as Lever.

As always with Port supporters and people like Kane and Rucci they always trying and use false analogies to try and prove that Port are superior.

The most ridiculous was hearing Kane trying to use Wingard as an example of Port being able to hold on to players, Wingard is frigging from SA you moron !!!!

 

[phill5158]

The thing is port may be better at retaining their players but name big players that they have had to keep? Apart from probably Boak and Gray.

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