Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Or after you have tried to get every drop out of an older playing list and draw the line that the list no longer gives you a shot at a flag

There are no pre-emptive rebuilds

 

[Big Dub]

Or after you have tried to get every drop out of an older playing list and draw the line that the list no longer gives you a shot at a flag

We made the gf in 2017 and had a list that should gave been in contention for at least a few years. We then broke them. We definitely f***ed up.

 

[Mostyn]

You rebuild after you've f***ed up and are left with no choice

We absolutely could have topped up and tried to go again.

It wouldn't have worked, but we certainly could have done it.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Or after you have tried to get every drop out of an older playing list and draw the line that the list no longer gives you a shot at a flag

Will be interesting to see what the Cats now do, I’d argue they’re in a similar spot to what we were in 2018/19 (except they actually won a flag beforehand)

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We absolutely could have topped up and tried to go again.

It wouldn't have worked, but we certainly could have done it.

No we couldn't, we were woeful. There was nothing to top up

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We absolutely could have topped up and tried to go again.

It wouldn't have worked, but we certainly could have done it.

We couldn't after being Birdbrained...

The playing group were completely fractured from the coaches.

 

[Mostyn]

We couldn't after being Birdbrained...

The playing group were completely fractured from the coaches.

Sure.

But it's not like we couldn't have buried our head in the sand and topped up.

We made a decision to not do that and not to re-sign a bunch of players, like Greenwood, Jacobs and Keath.

Plenty of clubs should have cut deeper and properly done a rebuild, and haven't.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sure.

But it's not like we couldn't have buried our head in the sand and topped up.

We made a decision to not do that and not to re-sign a bunch of players, like Greenwood, Jacobs and Keath.

Plenty of clubs should have cut deeper and properly done a rebuild, and haven't.

We did bury our head in the sand for a while & only made things worse!

There was no coming back after that camp.

Topping up would have been useless.

 

[119others]

We did bury our head in the sand for a while & only made things worse!

There was no coming back after that camp.

Topping up would have been useless.

It didn’t appear a sustainable culture. Compare Pyke and Birdbrain to Nicks and Jackson for culture (Chalk/cheese).

I agree the humiliation / choke of 2017 GF, then the camp should have seen us hit the reset button but probably only one year earlier 2019 starting the rebuild.

glad we went the full rebuild, the only one in 30 years history which is amazing in itself. Topping up wouldn’t have worked and has ceilings (teams scraping into prelims but being no where near a flag threat then hopeless for the next 6-7 years).

I can almost guarantee we are going to need to do another major rebuild again in the next 30 years.

 

[Golumless]

We absolutely could have topped up and tried to go again.

It wouldn't have worked, but we certainly could have done it.

No, we couldn't. There is no coming back from a 2-10 run and one where the players have downed tools to try to get a coach sacked. Can't keep the core because they'll down tools when it gets tough. Can't keep the admin/coaches because they pushed the players to that point.

We could have tried to go again, but by that point, the only way out is to burn it all down and start over.

 

[Scorpus]

No, we couldn't. There is no coming back from a 2-10 run and one where the players have downed tools to try to get a coach sacked. Can't keep the core because they'll down tools when it gets tough. Can't keep the admin/coaches because they pushed the players to that point.

We could have tried to go again, but by that point, the only way out is to burn it all down and start over.

Exactly.

We could have, in the way that anyone could make a catastrophic mistake if they wanted to

We couldn't have gone again and had it succeed

 

[Mostyn]

No, we couldn't. There is no coming back from a 2-10 run and one where the players have downed tools to try to get a coach sacked. Can't keep the core because they'll down tools when it gets tough. Can't keep the admin/coaches because they pushed the players to that point.

We could have tried to go again, but by that point, the only way out is to burn it all down and start over.

Yep, I agree and clearly they did too.

My point was just that they COULD have tried to go again and many clubs have decided not to rebuild when they obviously needed to. But luckily common sense meant they decided to rip the band aid off.

 

[baldandbroke]

Interesting take .....so all good clubs have to make Finals every year ...otherwise they're failures

1998 was a looong time ago.

 

[CryptoCrow]

Uh Oh Northern Academies..

The SA lad definitely sounds like an electrical appliance

 

[Jeffcrowe]

No we couldn't, we were woeful. There was nothing to top up

Agree … the only way we could reloaded and gone again would have been if we had of retained Danger , Charlie and one or 2 others

We lost too many players to do it and also the culture was shot post camp debacle and having Burton etc on staff

 

[Golumless]

Agree … the only way we could reloaded and gone again would have been if we had of retained Danger , Charlie and one or 2 others

We lost too many players to do it and also the culture was shot post camp debacle and having Burton etc on staff

Even if we had them, if 2019 pans out the same way, your only recourse is to burn it all down. The state of the list really doesn't matter at all when you have a team who chose to down tools to get a coach/admin group sacked.

It might just mean it's one or two years at the bottom, not four-five which we're currently at.

 

[BRL121]

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas

Impressive transition by the Stingers hey!

We don't want any transitioning going on at a camp.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas

Impressive transition by the Stingers hey!

Know any of those kids ?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Still want Sid Draper?

This kid is a star

Big midfielder !

He’s my pick 1 I think , him and O’Sullivan

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Keep ya eye on a cuppla Stingers Harvey Langford and Cooper Hynes in that bigger midfield category. Not to mention Sam Lalor of course

Yep they all look good

 

[1990crow]

Still want Sid Draper?

Must have a Pakistani birth certificate

 

[Crow till I die]

Keep ya eye on a cuppla Stingers Harvey Langford and Cooper Hynes in that bigger midfield category. Not to mention Sam Lalor of course

Hypothetical. If we could trade for M Phillipou at the end of the year OR trade up to secure one of these young top end mids in this years draft, what would be your preference based on what you have seen?

 

[DJ75]

We absolutely could have topped up and tried to go again.

It wouldn't have worked, but we certainly could have done it.

We did try! That's what 2018 was. It wasn't until the wheels fell off half way through that we realised it was a disaster.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Herbert primed to give footy "100 per cent" in 2024

With senior and state Under 18 experience under his belt, Eagles midfielder Kade Herbert is primed for a massive top-age campaign.

central.rookieme.com

 

[Big Dub]

2024 SANFL U18 Combine Testing Results - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Sid Draper it appears isn't an athletic beast if he tested in all aspects of the testing day. Wonder if Hugh Payze is former Crows Andrew Payze's son?

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20m Sprint​

PLAYER	CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Benny Barrett	South	2.87
Ky Burgoyne	West	2.88
Zac Schwarz	Eagles	2.90
Joel Parker	West	2.90
Thomas Griffiths	North	2.90
Angas Moyse	Sturt	2.91
Harley Barker	Sturt	2.92
Charlie West	Eagles	2.92
Jack Walters	Glenelg	2.92
Tom Corcoran	Glenelg	2.92

Yo Yo Test​

PLAYER	CLUB	LEVEL
Beau Ryan	Central	21.8
Zac Schwarz	Eagles	21.6
Joel Parker	West	21.6
Scott Delean	South	21.6
Bailey White	West	21.5
Oscar Fraser	North	21.5
Harry Piggott	Eagles	21.5
Jay Chapman	South	21.5
Kieran Scannell	Glenelg	21.4
Hugh Payze	North	21.4

Standing Vertical Jump​

PLAYER	CLUB	JUMP (CM)
Zac Schwarz	Eagles	84
Cam Kelly	Sturt	82
Ben Camporeale	Glenelg	79
Brody Wilton	Central	76
Jack Walters	Glenelg	76
Harley Barker	Sturt	73
Joel Parker	West	73
Jett Reid	South	73
Bailey White	West	73
Ezra Foster	Norwood	73

Running Vertical Jump (Right Foot)​

PLAYER	CLUB	JUMP (CM)
Noah Algate	North	92
Jacob Newton	Norwood	91
Jonty Koehne	West	91
Kodah Edwards	South	90
Dakota Sterzl	South	88
Cain Florance	South	86
Lucas Camporeale	Glenelg	86
Hunter Press	North	86
Riley Shepherdson	Glenelg	84
Zac Schwarz	Eagles	83
Connor Mills	Sturt	83
Sid Draper	South	83

Running Vertical Jump (Left Foot)​

PLAYER	CLUB	JUMP (CM)
Ben Camporeale	Glenelg	95
Zac Schwarz	Eagles	93
Cooper Jones	Glenelg	90
Harley Barker	Sturt	89
Sam Burbridge	West	89
Joel Parker	West	89
Jacob Newton	Norwood	87
Cain Florance	South	87
Billy Wilson	South	87
Charlie Nicholls	Central	87
Hudson Angove	Eagles	87

Did Welsh test? Wasn't he right up there in the 20m sprint at last year's testing?