2017 Non Crows AFL Discussion Thread - Part IV A New Hope

[rezagun]

I don't blame them to be honest. Won the right to have a home final. Of course, they have to play at the G at some stage, but fact is we have a massive home ground advantage and the AFL took away theirs.

Why didnt they just make simonds stadium bigger and then the game wouldve been there? Didnt they just spend heaps of $$ on it?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I recon a highland fling for the prelim.
And if we get to the GF a bit of the Maddison "nutbush city limits". Will surely put any ather team off.
Win that and I think a bit of line dancing with Billy Ray Cyrus's, "Don't break My Heart, My Achy Breaky Heart" would be most appropriate.

 

[rezagun]

Some of the posts on the richmond board

 

[ADL9798]

Geelong's trade and drafting period since 2012

2012:

Traded in
Hamish McIntosh for pick 38 = bust
Josh Caddy for 1st round pick compensation and pick 57 = bust

Drafted
#16 - Jackson Thurlow (injury plagued)
#77 - Brad Hartman

2013:
Traded out:
Podsiadly for pick 64
Hunt for pick 75
Chapman for 84

Drafted:
#16 - Darcy Lang
#36 - Jarrad Jansen
#41 - Jake Kolodashnij
#54 - Josh Walker (rookie elevation)
#64 - Josh Burbury (rookie elevation)

2014:
Allen Christensen to Brisbane for pick 21
Mitch Clark in a three way trade involving Varcoe and Lumumba
Rhys Stanley and pick 60 for pick 21

#10 - Nakia Cockatoo
#55 - Dean Gore
#59 - Jordan Cunico

2015:
IN:
Scott Selwood
Dangerfield and 50 for Pick 9 , Gore and 28
Henderson for end of first round pick
Zac Smith for 49 and 53

Out:
Dawson Simpson to GWS
Jansen and Walker for 3rd round pick

#59 - Ryan Gardner
#66 - Sam Menegola (very solid)
#69 - Wylie Buzza
#70 - Matthew Hyball

2016:

In:
Tuohy and 2nd round pick for Smedts , 63 and first round pick (win)
Black for 92

Out:
Kersten for 63
Caddy and 56 for 24 and 64
Vardy for 72

#26- Parfitt
#40 - Stewart
#60 - Narkle
#68 - House
#69 - Abbott

Geelong are in for a world of hurt. Their drafting have been quite awful from the players they've traded in. Geelong have ZERO youth coming in....

It goes back further than that. You have to go back to 2008 to find the last time they drafted a player that went on to be selected in a 40 man All Australian squad (Motlop x1 - 2013), and he's hardly what you'd call a consistent, A-Grade footballer.

I'd say the last time they came out of a draft having picked up some unqualified A-grade talent was 2007 (Taylor & Mumford).

Nakia Cockatoo I'll give the benefit of the doubt to as I think he has potential, but that's 8-9 years without unearthing a single All Australian standard footballer.

To compound this very ordinary record in the draft, as you've pointed out they've consciously traded out of the first round of the 2015, 2016 and 2018 drafts to prolongue their stint at the top. If it works and they win a flag in this window, then it will be seen as a successful strategy, but either way they are staring into the abyss from potentially as early as next year when the likes of Mackie and Lonergan will be gone, Taylor will be 32 and Selwood/Hawkins will both be over 30.

For reference here are their entries to that squad since 2010:
2017: Dangerfield, Selwood
2016: Dangerfield, Selwood, Enright
2015: Nil
2014: Hawkins, Lonergan, Selwood, Taylor
2013: Enright, Mackie, Motlop, Selwood, Taylor
2012: Hawkins, Taylor, Selwood, Enright, Lonergan
2011: Enright, Johnson, Kelly, Selwood, Scarlett, Taylor
2010: Ablett, Enright, Chapman, Johnson, Kelly, Taylor, Selwood

 

[subaru]

I don't blame them to be honest. Won the right to have a home final. Of course, they have to play at the G at some stage, but fact is we have a massive home ground advantage and the AFL took away theirs.

They rebuilt the ground

They had one job

 

[inkabella]

Geelong were awful in first half and got two late goals, Richmond were on top but couldn't score.

3/4 qtr Geelong played better and Richmond ordinary.

Last qtr Richmond got on top again but this time scored easily as Geelong folded.

Thanks for that. It looked one-sided so didn't really want to go back and watch it

 

[NikkiNoo]

Mick Molloy punching way above his weight. Cocaine and money do strange things to some women

Humour is very attractive. That still doesn't explain Mick Molloy though.

 

[Brentmeister]

This just sums up everything about Danger. Can find the pill better than anyone but jeez he sprayed them everywhere last night. 45% DE is horrific, and he wasn't really being tagged- on many occasions he had time and space.

 

[Rotayjay]

Brett Deledio has played out his whole 200+ game career without winning a final, and went to GWS no doubt hoping he would. He just lined up in a team that we humiliated in the QF. His old side won a final at last, the very next day. LOL!

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Great day in Sydney today so it will be a fast deck so this should suit the Bombers

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Brett Deledio has played out his whole 200+ game career without winning a final, and went to GWS no doubt hoping he would. He just lined up in a team that we humiliated in the QF. His old side won a final at last, the very next day. LOL!

Not to mention that his contribution on the night was just as humiliating

 

[GreyCrow]

Bang. But we need to earn that GF spot by winning a PF for only the 3rd time in our history

Nothing's deserved. And i feel our boys know it

I wonder if we'll do the stare down again, or if that was a one time thing?

One off for GWS is my feeling

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Looks like to me that the only advantage Geelong really has now is being able to play their glorified SANFL ground where they can exploit the weird dimensions against opponents who have game plans suited for far bigger grounds.

After last night performance I am not surprised at how they were so desperate to get all their finals at cheat stadium because they were absolutely spanked at the MCG.

Hasn't that advantage now been completely removed?

I thought that the AFL has already decided that Geelong will be back at the MCG

 

[MatthewB]

Geelong supporters having a huge whinge about their home game being played at their home ground*

*the MCG is one of Geelong's home grounds

it is a home state final not a home ground final, Sydney played a home final at ANZ stadium last year, did anyone hear them complain

 

[Elite Crow]

Hasn't that advantage now been completely removed?

I thought that the AFL has already decided that Geelong will be back at the MCG

Home and away

 

[footy4ever]

Ok, now we're ****ed.

I just read Ollie says Port can go all the way.

Oh well, it was good while it lasted Crows.

 

[treeman]

Is it just me or is basically the whole media just assuming Port will get over the line tonight?
The only person I've heard really question it is Mark Bickley which is probably only to have a differing opinion to Rowie.

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[Elite Crow]

Port haven't even sold the game out, the days of 50k crowds for them, except for showdowns, are over.

 

[SC26]

Port haven't even sold the game out, the days of 50k crowds for them, except for showdowns, are over.

Yep still heaps of tickets available. Guessing 45k crowd.

 

[Squiba]

Is it just me or is basically the whole media just assuming Port will get over the line tonight?
The only person I've heard really question it is Mark Bickley which is probably only to have a differing opinion to Rowie.

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Only chance west coast have is they bring manic attack on the ball and man. WC have a big advantage up forward, so if they can generate turnovers and quick forward entry, that should get up.

If I were them, I'd be most concerned about Gray and Wingard being too slick to stop.

 

[Roovolution]

Brett Deledio has played out his whole 200+ game career without winning a final, and went to GWS no doubt hoping he would. He just lined up in a team that we humiliated in the QF. His old side won a final at last, the very next day. LOL!

Something Lever should be thinking about. What happened to Griffen when he left the Dogs?

 

[FantasticShirt]

Yep still heaps of tickets available. Guessing 45k crowd.

40k more likely

 

[SC26]

Is it just me or is basically the whole media just assuming Port will get over the line tonight?
The only person I've heard really question it is Mark Bickley which is probably only to have a differing opinion to Rowie.

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A big example of this is at the end of the article about Ollie Wines going on about being premiership contenders in the paper today: "The Power, as with the Bulldogs last season, have gained from the bye at the end of the home-and-away season." How the **** do you know if they have gained from the bye if they haven't played yet???

 

[Rotayjay]

Something Lever should be thinking about. What happened to Griffen when he left the Dogs?

Seeing a player leave a club for success, get **** all and watch their old side win - brightens my day.

Looking at you Dangerfield. Make him pay, Crows.

 

[Rotayjay]

Yep still heaps of tickets available. Guessing 45k crowd.

I'm tempted to go and barrack for West Coast for the lulz. Turn up in disguise as Rotajeeves from Perth.