Gun control in America

[Crankyhawk]

Serious Question.

How many of the anti-gun people on this forum have actually used a firearm on a regular basis?

Can we only comment on guns if we use them? So only comment on ice use if we use it?

 

[Ruck Machine]

Can we only comment on guns if we use them? So only comment on ice use if we use it?

You can comment ... but unless you have tried ice do you really know everything there is to know about it? Same with guns ... if you haven’t used one you’re missing a piece of the puzzle.

 

[cartwright]

38,000 gun deaths ... nice obfuscation.

Counting suicides is so disingenuous it’s laughable.

Gun HOMICIDES are the only deaths that actually matter in this argument ... but then again that doesn’t suit the anti-gun narrative.

Why would you ignore deaths by gun, in a conversation about guns?

 

[Ruck Machine]

Still 8000.

Oh ... so 21% of the original number quoted ... if that’s not disingenuous I don’t know what is!

 

[Taylor]

38,000 gun deaths ... nice obfuscation.

Counting suicides is so disingenuous it’s laughable.

Gun HOMICIDES are the only deaths that actually matter in this argument ... but then again that doesn’t suit the anti-gun narrative.

The greatest win Australia got from the gun reforms here was the reduction in suicide by firearm if those saying it are to be believed

 

[Elroo]

Serious Question.

How many of the anti-gun people on this forum have actually used a firearm on a regular basis?

Yep. Loads Of times years ago, why?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Serious Question.

How many of the anti-gun people on this forum have actually used a firearm on a regular basis?

Why do you want people to have access to high powered military styled rifles? Serious Question.

 

[Ruck Machine]

The greatest win Australia got from the gun reforms here was the reduction in suicide by firearm if those saying it are to be believed

That’s illogical tripe ... last time I checked you only need 1 bullet to commit suicide by firearm ... the gun reforms related to semi-autos.

Typical anti-gun bollocks.

 

[Ruck Machine]

Yep. Loads Of times years ago, why?

Just pointing out that the anti-gun crowd know little to nothing about actual firearms.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The armed militia is how you get civil war and that leads to failed states. See Yugoslavia, Sudan etc.

I'd suggest that "successful states" have committed more violent atrocities

Governments are not suitable entities to decide whether or not I should have a gun. Period.

You can post anti gun right statistics until the cows come home, and I will bury those figures beneath the atrocities of government.

 

[Bradesmaen]

That’s illogical tripe ... last time I checked you only need 1 bullet to commit suicide by firearm ... the gun reforms related to semi-autos.

Typical anti-gun bollocks.

Actually they also restrict the sale of hand guns. Maybe you should follow Australian laws as much as you follow the USA.

 

[Ruck Machine]

Why do you want people to have access to high powered military styled rifles? Serious Question.

What is a military styled rifle?

 

[Snake_Baker]

38,000 gun deaths ... nice obfuscation.

Counting suicides is so disingenuous it’s laughable.

Gun HOMICIDES are the only deaths that actually matter in this argument ... but then again that doesn’t suit the anti-gun narrative.

The right to suicide is the highest libertarian principal that exists.

Show me an anti-gun lobbyist and I will show you a dictator in waiting.

 

[Snake_Baker]

What is a military styled rifle?

Media and political propaganda.

 

[Bradesmaen]

What is a military styled rifle?

An AR-15. It was developed for use by the US Military. As was the AK47.

 

[Ruck Machine]

Media and political propaganda.

Exactly my point

 

[Ruck Machine]

An AR-15. It was developed for use by the US Military. As was the AK47.

Oh ... you mean a semi-automatic rifle.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Oh ... you mean a semi-automatic rifle.

No. No I don't. There are differences in the type of rifles made that can be called semi-automatic. Your lack of understanding on guns combined with your willingness to let anyone have them is disturbing.

 

[Elroo]

Just pointing out that the anti-gun crowd know little to nothing about actual firearms.

Then you'd be wrong.

 

[Crankyhawk]

You can comment ... but unless you have tried ice do you really know everything there is to know about it? Same with guns ... if you haven’t used one you’re missing a piece of the puzzle.

So if you want to comment on suicide you have to have tried it.
Anyway, fired a gun (self loading rifle), experience was meh.
No intent to try ice I've seen people who are hooked (had them try to punch me thank * they don't have guns and aren't bringing them to hospital that I work in)

 

[Crankyhawk]

I'd suggest that "successful states" have committed more violent atrocities

Governments are not suitable entities to decide whether or not I should have a gun. Period.

You can post anti gun right statistics until the cows come home, and I will bury those figures beneath the atrocities of government.

Do you think government should decide whether you are fit to drive? A gun is more of a privilege and less general use than a car.
Although snake I think you may have issues with any authority figure. Accept that you are subservient to the government and authorities and maybe life would be less difficult.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Do you think government should decide whether you are fit to drive?

An absurd comparison.

A gun is more of a privilege and less general use than a car.

Rubbish

Although snake I think you may have issues with any authority figure. Accept that you are subservient to the government and authorities and maybe life would be less difficult.

Spoken like a true mindless automaton.

Democracy allows for people like you to ultimately have an influence over my right to self protection. I'll choose to take care of myself thanks.

You mind your business and I'll mind mine.

 

[Ruck Machine]

No. No I don't. There are differences in the type of rifles made that can be called semi-automatic. Your lack of understanding on guns combined with your willingness to let anyone have them is disturbing.

Got you covered when it comes to gun knowledge ... give up now ... your ignorance is getting embarrassing.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Got you covered when it comes to gun knowledge ... give up now ... your ignorance is getting embarrassing.

Lulz. Because you say so. Sure. So tell me, why should people be allowed to have access to high powered assault rifles?

Ps: I'm not the one embarrassing myself with severe ignorance and lack of care for human lives.

 

[Crankyhawk]

An absurd comparison.



Rubbish



Spoken like a true mindless automaton.

Democracy allows for people like you to ultimately have an influence over my right to self protection. I'll choose to take care of myself thanks.

You mind your business and I'll mind mine.

So how often do you use you gun then? I drive my car on average an hour a day, can you honestly say you use (I will include carry, not point and aim) your gun for that long each day?

And democracy allows misfits like you to have an opinion but the majority see that you have no sense behind it. As long as you don't act out we will be ok.