2017-18 FA Cup

[Satan]

I rate the FA Cup. To me though the league cup is pointless.

For the bigger clubs playing in europe its a hinderance potentially adding 5 more games to the season . The teams the big teams put out usually indicate their interest or lack of . Love FA cup when the smaller clubs and non league clubs can have moment in the sun.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

The real problem for me is when even the smaller teams put out weakened sides because they are more concerned about premier league survival. Then it just becomes a farce - almost like a reserve team competition.

This is an interesting article on the decline of the competition

http://www.englishfootballleaguetables.co.uk/Blog/FAcup.html

 

[SM]

The real problem for me is when even the smaller teams put out weakened sides because they are more concerned about premier league survival. Then it just becomes a farce - almost like a reserve team competition.

This is an interesting article on the decline of the competition

http://www.englishfootballleaguetables.co.uk/Blog/FAcup.html

I've never had an issue with clubs using their entire squad and keeping people playing, I do have an issue with teams not going out there trying to win though. I'm convinced one of the reasons we went down in 15/16 was that we had a large squad for Europa and LC/FAC and then went out of most comps very early, so players became unhappy with not playing, so I'll always be of the belief that rotation is healthy in Cup competitions, but again, it comes more down to mentality and attitude of the manager.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

I've never had an issue with clubs using their entire squad and keeping people playing, I do have an issue with teams not going out there trying to win though. I'm convinced one of the reasons we went down in 15/16 was that we had a large squad for Europa and LC/FAC and then went out of most comps very early, so players became unhappy with not playing, so I'll always be of the belief that rotation is healthy in Cup competitions, but again, it comes more down to mentality and attitude of the manager.

There’s an argument for that, certainly in the earlier rounds. It all comes down to money though I guess, and staying in the PL or qualifying for the CL just massively trumps winning the cup in financial terms. Will be interesting to see what team Swansea field when they play us, considering they are right back in the thick of a relegation fight.

 

[Thistle]

I would love the fa cup to have a champions league spot up for grabs. I would also like to see all clubs who qualified for European competitions excluded from the league cup.

 

[kangaspurs]

IFAB do make the issue clearer:

http://theifab.com/laws/the-penalty-kick/chapters/the-penalty-kick-faq

After reading that I think it was a fair call.

Oh yeah, mate, I don't actually disagree with the decision, I just think it's ridiculous that it's effectively a judgement on unwritten rules, and that two refs can watch the same incident and both come to different conclusions.

I think it's something that needs to be tidied up in the official rules.

 

[Satan]

I would love the fa cup to have a champions league spot up for grabs. I would also like to see all clubs who qualified for European competitions excluded from the league cup.

That would devalue a devalued comp

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I would love the fa cup to have a champions league spot up for grabs. I would also like to see all clubs who qualified for European competitions excluded from the league cup.

That would be nuts. You’d get Sutton or Woking fluking a FA Cup and earning more in CL money than they’ve made in their existence.

 

[SM]

That would be nuts. You’d get Sutton or Woking fluking a FA Cup and earning more in CL money than they’ve made in their existence.

How often has a Championship, let alone League One/Two team won the FA Cup in the last.. 20 years?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

How often has a Championship, let alone League One/Two team won the FA Cup in the last.. 20 years?

Geez I’m thinking out loud here...

 

[SM]

Geez I’m thinking out loud here...

Just making the point it's a fairly redundant issue with that idea.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

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[SM]

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Not sure what you're taking issue with? Or did you throw your thought out on a discussion board not expecting it to generate discussion?

 

[Satan]

How often has a Championship, let alone League One/Two team won the FA Cup in the last.. 20 years?

Other than Portsmouth and Wigan the other winners were the usual suspects

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Not sure what you're taking issue with? Or did you throw your thought out on a discussion board not expecting it to generate discussion?

Just not interested in arguments with you anymore

 

[SM]

Just not interested in arguments with you anymore

Right..

I wasn't arguing, was just responding to your point. Again, not sure you understand the basic concept of a discussion board.

EDIT: In fact, you carrying on like a wally is what has turned this into a back-and-forth.

 

[SM]

Other than Portsmouth and Wigan the other winners were the usual suspects

Especially if there was a CL spot on the line even more likely for the big clubs to take it seriously.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Ah yes, the CL place in the FA Cup. One major problem: Under UEFA rules, only the top ranked finishers (up to four) in a national league of at least eight teams can qualify for CL. The only exception is the Europa League.

National FAs are allowed to allocate Europa places as they like... for example, guaranteeing a 2nd Tier Belgan team a spot in European Competition.

If England decided to give out a Europa place for the most disciplined team, they are allowed to do that.

 

[jod23]

I rate the FA Cup. To me though the league cup is pointless.

Yeah Im annoyed we got bundled out.

 

[Thistle]

That would devalue a devalued comp

How so?

That would be nuts. You’d get Sutton or Woking fluking a FA Cup and earning more in CL money than they’ve made in their existence.

And how great would that be!

 

[Blueboys11]

Was there really only 25k there? I know the weather is shite and Rochdale are a rabble but still. Shows how far the FA Cup has fallen in the eyes of the fans.

In fairness, probably similar crowd at the Arsenal game today

 

[go you pups]

Newcastle fans will be the happiest about today. Their Wembley game has been rescheduled.

Oh rly

It was 8pm Friday night. campaigner of a time.

Only for the folk of Sleepy Hollow

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Looks like Swansea away with neither Ayew playing. Mark Abraham out of the game and we're halfway there.

 

[SM]

Looks like Swansea away with neither Ayew playing. Mark Abraham out of the game and we're halfway there.

Think his name's Tammy.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Think his name's Tammy.

I hate iPhone keyboards so much. Meant man mark obviously