Opinion Player list management and game plan 2019

[Powerade 08]

I'd be hugely torn about trading SPP. His kicking is awful, but we don't have many competitive beasts like him. If his kicking is brought up to an acceptable level, he'll be an outstanding player.

Every part of his game is bad. It's not just kicking.

 

[Ports1870]

Every part of his game is bad. It's not just kicking.

Come on man, his only in his second season and he has already shown some attributes you don’t see from most players until their 5th or 6th seasons.

 

[philthy05]

Apologies for the intrusion.
Would you guys ever entertain a trade with us for pick 7 for Chad Wingard?

Lol hell no. Would you swap our first for bontempelli?

Some interest in Peppers.

Imagine he caught the eye of a few teams.

I remember reading at some stage last year his per a minute clearance rate was second only to Patrick Cripps.

Next year we should get him even more midfield time

 

[Visenfest]

Every part of his game is bad. It's not just kicking.

You're entitled to your opinion, completely wrong though it is.

 

[Powerade 08]

Come on man, his only in his second season and he has already shown some attributes you don’t see from most players until their 5th or 6th seasons.

The club hasn't shown they can develop players. Wines and Wingard aren't much better now than in their first 2 years, arguably worse. He needs too much work, we would be smart to cut our losses.

edit: also we have good replacements with Atley and Drew.

 

[Ports1870]

The club hasn't shown they can develop players. Wines and Wingard aren't much better now than in their first 2 years, arguably worse. He needs too much work, we would be smart to cut our losses.

If we trade him though, we would probably be trading for picks, which we would have to develop as well.

 

[It Just Is]

Shame on the club if we can’t make a player of SPP.

 

[Waspy79]

The club hasn't shown they can develop players. Wines and Wingard aren't much better now than in their first 2 years, arguably worse. He needs too much work, we would be smart to cut our losses.

You’re suggesting that he’s the next Rhys Palmer. I really hope you’re wrong but next season will be crucial.

 

[Ports1870]

My only untouchables would be SPP, Marshall, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Dixon, Farrell, Howard, Jonas and possibly Houston/DBJ.

 

[Waspy79]

My only untouchables would be SPP, Marshall, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Dixon, Farrell, Howard, Jonas and possibly Houston/DBJ.

Every player has a price. Pick 1 for Wines? I’d hope we do it to secure Lukocious. Wines’ sister might be happier too.

 

[DaTBird187]

SPP's kicking action makes it look like he's slipped on a spill in isle 7.

I've cooled massively on him the longer this year has gone on. 2nd year or not.

 

[Malibu#27]

My only untouchables would be SPP, Marshall, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Dixon, Farrell, Howard, Jonas and possibly Houston/DBJ.

It’s interesting that a few posts up someone is saying the club can’t develop players, when the last four players on your list include 2 rookie selections and 2 post pick 50 selections.

 

[Ports1870]

It’s interesting that a few posts up someone is saying the club can’t develop players, when the last four players on your list include 2 rookie selections and 2 post pick 50 selections.

It seems like our club develops late picks better. Not sure why.

 

[snozulu]

I remember Zakk Wylde saying a few players that have played this season will be traded back to Vic etc. I think one is Amon and obviously Polec. A list rejuvenation would be nice.

 

[Malibu#27]

It seems like our club develops late picks better. Not sure why.

Probably because there’s an element of perception and anger in people’s opinions at the moment.
(And development isn’t linear - or entirely the coaches responsibility)

 

[Ports1870]

I remember Zakk Wylde saying a few players that have played this season will be traded back to Vic etc. I think one is Amon and obviously Polec. A list rejuvenation would be nice.

I’m pretty sure the post said traded home, so Polec wouldn’t be one of them.

 

[snozulu]

I’m pretty sure the post said traded home, so Polec wouldn’t be one of them.

I'm sure your probably right.

 

[Dalfino]

When we went through our purple patch in the middle of the season, SPP was just about one of our best players. At one point he had something like a 10-1 win/loss record IIRC? Obvious issues with kicking efficiency and taking on players are obvious, but definitely a player who is more of a victim of our bad coaching and development systems (for example, our shithouse midfield) than a core issue.

If people want a hard rebuild with a look to the future, SPP is someone who should be at the centre of it. Potential payoff is way bigger than whatever we'd get now.

 

[Ports1870]

When we went through our purple patch in the middle of the season, SPP was just about one of our best players. At one point he had something like a 10-1 win/loss record IIRC? Obvious issues with kicking efficiency and taking on players are obvious, but definitely a player who is more of a victim of our bad coaching and development systems (for example, our shithouse midfield) than a core issue.

If people want a hard rebuild with a look to the future, SPP is someone who should be at the centre of it. Potential payoff is way bigger than whatever we'd get now.

Totally agree

 

[Forzaport]

I’m not surprised with the SPP talk. There’s an inherent risk that can’t be ignored. It’s really up to SPP to decide whether he wants his AFL career to be remembered for his on-field actions or his off-field actions.

 

[elpirate]

Without trying to be too cryptic... it depends on who you ask at the club

It's pretty obvious that he's no longer one of Ken's favourites.

 

[dirty2]

Heard a reasonable whisper today that you are going hard at Sheil.

Don't tease us... we are still to sensitive...

 

[bacharach]

It seems like our club develops late picks better. Not sure why.

Easier to develop defenders. I've heard coaches say they are the least skilled players compared to mids and forwards.

 

[Ports1870]

Easier to develop defenders. I've heard coaches say they are the least skilled players compared to mids and forwards.

But even going further back, we have drafted players like Westhoff and Gray late.

 

[LP7_]

**** me. Surely we don’t trade SPP. He’s already had a 17 tackle game. We need that grunt, will be a star.