Bluemour Discussion Thread X

[ShanDog]

I reckon if we see the club announce Casboult as not being offered anither contract, it all but confirms McGovern is a lock.

 

[Blue__Balls]

In light of recent developments, and not wanting to pot anyone, can we implement some kind of structure to our Bluemours?

Rumour: Gaff to Carlton / McGovern to Carlton / We don't want Billings / Ross Lyon coach next year
Source: Friend of player / Contact at club / Relative of XXXX / My mate at work / SEN caller

Appreciate people sharing their mail, but it would be nice to know how concrete they claim it to be.

 

[Soapy V]

Blueing you have stated it as fact that Gaff will be at Carlton.

How is this going to happen?

Can you expand on it.

A lot of damn money

 

[Aphrodite]

A lot of damn money

You are not Blueing.

 

[ShanDog]

Although, on second thought, we might not say anything and try to trade him to a team like the Suns who need a mature age forward in order to get some late picks to use for father/sons in the draft.

 

[RudyBlue]

I reckon if we see the club announce Casboult as not being offered anither contract, it all but confirms McGovern is a lock.

Casboult contracted for next year

 

[Stamos]

I reckon if we see the club announce Casboult as not being offered anither contract, it all but confirms McGovern is a lock.

Casboult is contracted for 2019

 

[Blue__Balls]

Which is why they'd give him options of clubs. You really think they'll let him walk to Richmond on $700k for their first rounder?
If there is any truth to it this sort of talk would already be happening behind the scenes and they would know what they'll pretty much get before they told him to look around

They. Can't. Trade. Him. To. A. Club. He. Doesn't. Want. To. Go. To.

They tell Dylan they want to trade him this year.
His manager canvases clubs for contracts.
Dylan decides where he'd like to play (based on dollars, years, sentiment, success, whatever).
Dylan nominates a club.
GWS deal with that club for the best deal they can get.
If they can't reach a satisfactory agreement, Dylan stays on and leaves as a free agent (likely to that same club) next year.

You can't try to oust a contracted player and then haggle over which club is prepared to offer a better draft pick in return.

 

[Arr0w]

Gaff now?

What next Kelly?

 

[Aphrodite]

Casboult contracted for next year

Casboult is contracted for 2019

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

Let them want it.
They wanted to give 13 and a hack player for Gibbs, Kane Cornes even stressed what a good deal that was, but we all know how that ended up.
Stay strong guys. The days of Rogers and Hughes getting their pants pulled down in trades are well and truly over.

I’m totally with you, just can’t handle them infesting our board again.

I don’t go on opposition boards but if I did I’d like to think I would at least put something semi reasonable to them.

They’ll rock up here, tell us that they will be getting pick one and we will like it. We might get some change out of them if we’re lucky.

SOS and Reid though, complete mismatch.

 

[kjr8]

So adding an MVP to a 73 win team is your idea of the right way? It’s exactly what Richmond are doing with Lynch. They didn’t need Durant to win, they just needed him not on other certain teams to dilute the competition.

And Boogie? More good management I suppose? It’s a sham and so is Steve Kerr.

Your Lakers hit the jackpot because the best player in basketball wanted to be in LA. That’s good luck, not good management.

Durant was a FREE agent - it was his choice to go to a 73 win team. Right or wrong, he’s now a 2x champ and finals mvp.. and also still getting paid. Boogie is coming off an injury that maybe 1-2 players EVER had comeback the same from. My take is that he’s bet on himself to get paid again, but at same time, why not get a ring and also perform with little to no pressure / expectation on a stacked team?

Btw, if building and winning a championship around 1 top 10 pick, a top 15 and a second round pick is a sham.. then sign me right up. I’d give up most of our first rounders at Princes Park if it meant #17 sham.

Right right.. bron only wanted LA. Guess that’s why Clippers got a shot at speaking with him....


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[ajb72]

It is mad Monday for sure.

 

[No1Suspect]

i hope the Setts and Mcgov talk is true. B70 didnt disagree with the Setts rumour and added MM was the other name so ill give 90 the benefit here.

 

[Wickzki]

Shit. Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. Oops.

I don't see Gaff to Carlton for 2 reasons

1. Non-finalists such as St. Kilda, North, and Essendon will throw the farm at a guy like Gaff. Much more than SOS will who has a more patient long-term approach (building a premiership team rather than one that challenges for finals)

2. Finalists like Hawthorn and Melbourne who would offer similar coin to Carlton are a lot more appealing.

I'll believe it when I see it though I wouldn't be against it.

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

We only won four games in the year before Judd joined us...

I harken back to the 11 years ago point, a lot has changed. Also, we gave up plenty for Juddy. Certainly see your point though

 

[KohPhi]

Alas, he immediately disappears into the dark and vast expanse of Avondale Heights.

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Meanwhile, 90N90S disappears in the distance..

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

Worried about Adelaide posters shitting up the list management threads? Pfft, try living through the 2015 Yarran trade.

Worried? Far from. Just annoyed.

That Yarran trade was an abomination on here, you’ve got me there.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

A lot of bullshit on this board today

I heard Jezza is a lock for assistant coach next year.

 

[Malifice]

If we can land Setterfield, McGovern and Walsh I'd be pretty happy. Still leaves our 2019 midfield a bit shallow though.

Cripps, Dow, Fisher, E Curnow, Walsh, Setterfield, Kennedy, Murphy, SPS.

Picks 1, 1, 3, 5, 6, 13, 13, 25 and a Rookie.

That's not a shallow midfield. It's just a young one.

 

[Effes]

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-08-27/injury-update-postseason

Versatile duo Mitch McGovern and Andy Otten will both undergo post-season surgery in coming days.

McGovern requires a minor arthroscopic procedure on both ankles, while Otten will have surgery to alleviate an Achilles issue which has troubled him in the second half of the year. Both players are expected to make a quick recovery.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Shit. Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. Oops.

I don't see Gaff to Carlton for 2 reasons

1. Non-finalists such as St. Kilda, North, and Essendon will throw the farm at a guy like Gaff. Much more than SOS will who has a more patient long-term approach (building a premiership team rather than one that challenges for finals)

2. Finalists like Hawthorn and Melbourne who would offer similar coin to Carlton are a lot more appealing.

I'll believe it when I see it though I wouldn't be against it.

Yeah, I think you just need to apply common sense to the many rumours that are suggested at this time of year. All the talk is that Gaff either stays or goes to North. As you suggested, you would think Hawthorn and Melbourne will give him a good shot too. Every day that goes by it looks more and more like Gaff is on the move.

I rate any Gaff to Carlton rumour at 0% chance of happening.

 

[Blue since 72]

Simpson & Rowe have re signed?

lol

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

They. Can't. Trade. Him. To. A. Club. He. Doesn't. Want. To. Go. To.

They tell Dylan they want to trade him this year.
His manager canvases clubs for contracts.
Dylan decides where he'd like to play (based on dollars, years, sentiment, success, whatever).
Dylan nominates a club.
GWS deal with that club for the best deal they can get.
If they can't reach a satisfactory agreement, Dylan stays on and leaves as a free agent (likely to that same club) next year.

You can't try to oust a contracted player and then haggle over which club is prepared to offer a better draft pick in return.

I know, that's what I'm saying. You seem to think they are going to accept unders because he has nominated a team. Without giving up pick 1 we don't have anything that would be a fair price for him that's why I said they would give him options of clubs a,b and c because they would know what they would pay for him otherwise they tell him he is staying

 

[Iamcarlton]

You're not listening

He has already said he plans on staying, has no intention of leaving, and the only way he does is if GWS want to offload him early.

So either GWS want to get rid of him, in which case he nominates a club and they deal fairly because they're the ones being helped - or he stays.

Surely you dont believe what players who are about to embark on a finals series say in media regarding their intentions going forward ?
TBH only the people very close to him would know if at all but to take his comments as gospel on the eve of the finals is a little naive .
What else is he going to say yeah im leaving ?