Moved Thread Best ever Indigenous players ranked.(Poll added)

[Power Raid]

I love this list

 

[The Warlord]

G ( Polly ) is numero uno, by a 20 metre handball.

Cabes is then number 2, the rest follow.

TI and Maurice played together, worth the money just for that. TI shaded Maurice >>>>> Basil & Benny.

Jimmy Krakouer, for actual output, Nicky Elvis blows him away.

If Jim played today, with the improved protection from abuse, he'd be a top five player in the comp.

Won his own ball, brilliant at setting others up, kicked plenty of his own.

 

[HolyRioli]

Needs more Stephen Michael, right near the top of the pile

 

[Tandy]

Franklin
Goodes
McLeod
Burgoyne
Polly Farmer
Chris Johnson
Daryl White
Wanganeen
Cable
Maurice
Betts
Long
Krakouer brothers
Winmar
Peter Matera
Micky O
C Lewis
Wirra
The Wiz

 

[Mockcockpit]

Needs more Stephen Michael, right near the top of the pile

Anyone who doesn't have him top five minimum never saw him play.

This just from two grand finals. The bit of play from the wonky bounce was the sort of thing he did multiple times every single game. What a player.

 

[masai]

Needs more Stephen Michael, right near the top of the pile

TI was better than Graham Moss, who was a Brownlow Medallist and still playing at his prime.

Made Don Scott look like a punce.

 

[Tandy]

Yeah haven't seen him so didn't put in. Looked a gun from the vid

 

[McOrist]

Daniel Kerr is not indigenous , he's got Indian heritage as far as I know.

I'll have to make the 'wink emoji' larger next time.

 

[Socrates2]

I'll have to make the 'wink emoji' larger next time.

Yes, I thought it was slightly screwed up left eye with a quizzical look.

 

[RAPPA]

Derek Kickett must’ve eaten his place on that list

 

[masai]

Derek Kickett must’ve eaten his place on that list

There wouldn’t be a kracker left, if he was allowed near this list.

 

[Chubberson]

I cant comment pre 1990. From what I have seen though.
1. Goodes - The guy could play anywhere and do anything, absolutely amazing footballer and I think judged a little harshly at the end of his career.
2. Franklin - Second only to Goodes, not quite the flexibility of Goodes and could go past Goodes. Just a freak, love him.
3/4. McLeod - Fantastic four square player, could be used as a defensive back pocket/rebounding defender to a midfielder/forward flanker. Sublime skills.
3/4. Wanganen - Splitting hairs with McLeod and Wanganeen so much courage and skill.

Past here becomes a bit of a crapshoot for me but these guys above stick in my mind as a pretty definitive top 4. Burgers/Wirra/Long in any order next maybe, then the next rung down.

 

[EB&W Pieman]

McLeod at number ONE
Two Grand Finals - both in the underdog team; both played interstate against Victorian opponents - for two wins and TWO NORM SMITH MEDALS!!!!!
Polly at 2; Cable at three.

 

[Socrates2]

McLeod at number ONE
Two Grand Finals - both in the underdog team; both played interstate against Victorian opponents - for two wins and TWO NORM SMITH MEDALS!!!!!
Polly at 2; Cable at three.

Maurice one of two players to have won a Norm Smith in a losing Grand Final along with Gary Ablett senior..Also won 2 x Simpson medals for South Fremantle, the WA norm smith equivalent.That's 3x b.o.g in grand finals.Mcleod was a smooth machine and born to play finals I agree.

 

[Occidental]

So many great players,
My top 15
Brownlows, Sandovers, 100 plus goals a season, multi premiership winners, multi Norm Smith winners, Indigenous trailblazers....
Polly Farmer
Lance Franklin
Barry Cable
Shaun Burgoyne
Peter Matera
Gavin Wanganeen
Adam Goodes
Andrew McLeod
Cyril Rioli
Doug Nicholls
Stephen Michael
Norm McDonald
Chris Johnson
Michael OLaughlin
Michael Long

 

[Occidental]

Maurice one of two players to have won a Norm Smith in a losing Grand Final along with Gary Ablett senior..Also won 2 x Simpson medals for South Fremantle, the WA norm smith equivalent.That's 3x b.o.g in grand finals.Mcleod was a smooth machine and born to play finals I agree.

Nathan Buckley & Chris Judd both won Norm Smith’s in a losing side.

 

[Socrates2]

Nathan Buckley & Chris Judd both won Norm Smith’s in a losing side.

Yes forgot about them.Whats the story with Norm McDonald ,what position was he?

 

[Crow till I die]

A guy that was a super super player was michael graham for sturt in the SANFL 1960's and 1970's..although i am guessing the greatest players are only AFL / VFL players for this discussion

 

[Occidental]

Yes forgot about them.Whats the story with Norm McDonald ,what position was he?

Brilliant multi premiership winning half back flanker for Essendon in the 1940’s & 1950’s. Great player when basically no Indigenous were playing.
He won the Essendon B&F in 1951 over Coleman, Reynolds & Hutchinson.
A paratrooper in World War 2, he was also 2nd in the Stawell Gift as a pro sprinter.

 

[Socrates2]

Brilliant multi premiership winning half back flanker for Essendon in the 1940’s & 1950’s. Great player when basically no Indigenous were playing.
He won the Essendon B&F in 1951 over Coleman, Reynolds & Hutchinson.

I noticed you left out Maurice Rioli in your top 15.Norm Smith and 2 Simpson medals for South Freo, a grand final specialist they call Mr Magic, also beat a young brash Mark Jacko Jackson in the boxing ring .A highly skilled tackling machine ahead of his time!

 

[Mockcockpit]

Maurice one of two players to have won a Norm Smith in a losing Grand Final along with Gary Ablett senior..Also won 2 x Simpson medals for South Fremantle, the WA norm smith equivalent.That's 3x b.o.g in grand finals.Mcleod was a smooth machine and born to play finals I agree.

Maurice Rioli was actually a three time Simpson medallist, he won his third in 1983 versus Victoria!

 

[Occidental]

I saw

I noticed you left out Maurice Rioli in your top 15.Norm Smith and 2 Simpson medals for South Freo, a grand final specialist they call Mr Magic, also beat a young brash Mark Jacko Jackson in the boxing ring .A highly skilled tackling machine ahead of his time!

I saw Maurice Rioli play on many occasions. A really good player without a doubt. Yes very fair, tough and skilled. I just can’t quite put him in the same bracket as quite a few other indigenous players.
Can’t have him over Farmer, Cable, Franklin, Goodes, McLeod, Wanganeen, Matera, Burgoyne etc. They’ve all just had better careers than Maurice.

 

[Socrates2]

A guy that was a super super player was michael graham for sturt in the SANFL 1960's and 1970's..although i am guessing the greatest players are only AFL / VFL players for this discussion

Yes he made the indigenous team of the century ,they called him the flash

 

[I am not A Robot]

Best ever indiginous players ranked.My top 20.
1/Polly Farmer
2/ Maurice Rioli
3/ Lance Franklin
4/Peter Matera
5/ Adam Goodes
6/Andrew McLeod
7/Gavin Wanganeen
8/Cyril Rioli
9/Barry Cable
10/Eddie Betts
11/Doug Nicholls
12/ Syd Jackson
13/Jimmy Krakouer
14/ Michael Long
15/ Shaun Burgoyne
16/Byron Pickett
17/ David Wirrpanda
18/ Stephen Michael
19/Nicky Winmar
20/ Daryl White

Barry cable should be in the top 3

 

[Socrates2]

I saw

I saw Maurice Rioli play on many occasions. A really good player without a doubt. Yes very fair, tough and skilled. I just don’t rate him, nor his record, as highly as quite a few other indigenous players.
Can’t have him over Farmer, Cable, Franklin, Goodes, McLeod, Wanganeen, Matera, Burgoyne etc. They’ve all just had better careers than Maurice.

I would respectfully disagree.I can see Cable or Franklin ahead but he's more skilled than the others.