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St Kilda had 16 more inside 50s than Geelong in 2009 GF. Attacking = score.So now Ross Lyon and the match committee are being potted for being too attacking.
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St Kilda had 16 more inside 50s than Geelong in 2009 GF. Attacking = score.So now Ross Lyon and the match committee are being potted for being too attacking.
Don't think Ryan is injured at all is he, not even a suggestion of it?
Cox kicked three goals in first half. Hogan went to bench in early third. Cox kick no more goals. Possibly a correlation there. Plus Cox looked to be carrying a knock to his wrist - could see him avoiding putting weight on it when picking himself up off the ground.
Hogans value won’t just be the goals he kicks for us, but just a better performing offence in general. I don’t care if Hogan kicks no goals if Cox kicks 60
Was told by watchers, he didn't say a word all training session. I'd say that's injury confirmed.Swita’s mouthstring injury unconfirmed diagnosis and observed walking laps at training. Hopefully not long term.
Given his struggles in 2017, being finally selected by the Dockers was actually a bit of surprise.Did Swita have any history of hamstring problems before he entered an AFL program?
I think Luke Ryan is undergoing some experimental surgical procedure to turn him into a footballing version of robocop... at least that’s my take from his insta postSee the West article from Duffield - reportedly heavy strapping on his shin and a severe limp at training. Not a major injury - sounds like a shin corky. Not training at all.
Logue - strapping around his hamstring and also limping and not training.
Swita’s mouthstring injury unconfirmed diagnosis and observed walking laps at training. Hopefully not long term.
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Yeah I couldn’t but help chuckle at that comment tooSo now Ross Lyon and the match committee are being potted for being too attacking.
If Bennell is a mysterious IN for JLT2 and Ryan is an unexpected OUT I think we'll know what has happened here.I think Luke Ryan is undergoing some experimental surgical procedure to turn him into a footballing version of robocop... at least that’s my take from his insta post
Funky selection of stats. Mind you the Saints twice bettered 60 i50's in a game in 2009, scoring 25.11 and 17.12, not bad scores.St Kilda had 16 more inside 50s than Geelong in 2009 GF. Attacking = score.
What training session was that? They didn't train today, was there a session earlier in the week?See the West article from Duffield - reportedly heavy strapping on his shin and a severe limp at training. Not a major injury - sounds like a shin corky. Not training at all.
Logue - strapping around his hamstring and also limping and not training.
Swita’s mouthstring injury unconfirmed diagnosis and observed walking laps at training. Hopefully not long term.
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What training session was that? They didn't train today, was there a session earlier in the week?
Sorry, wasn't meant to be a shot at you mate. Just that I went down today and there was no sign of anyone so I wondered if they had trained earlier in the week. I left about 10:00, maybe they came out later?Don’t shoot the messenger
https://thewest.com.au/sport/freman...-at-fremantle-dockers-training-ng-b881127301z
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Depends on the opponent.Funky selection of stats. Mind you the Saints twice bettered 60 i50's in a game in 2009, scoring 25.11 and 17.12, not bad scores.
Is that so? Perhaps it's for the best you've moved away from trying to use a veneer of "stats" to cling to your pov, not really a strong suit.Depends on the opponent.
Ross’s coaching career has been plagued by having teams that can make good field position and dominate all areas of the ground except the scoreboard.
Is that so? Perhaps it's for the best you've moved away from trying to use a veneer of "stats" to cling to your pov, not really a strong suit.
I would guess your point from that highly selective use of stats was that i50's are irrelevant to any increase in scoring for Lyon's coaching. I'd need to have a bigger sample to make any firm conclusions, but 2009 would suggest generally the more the better for scoring. Also more i50's might be more helpful to scoring than less.
Given the skinny supply last year, the big increase over the weekend suggests there are changes to the plan to aid scoring. We'll have to see how solid that is, but it'd be churlish to not see that as a more attacking approach.
Absolutely, but it's fair to say in preseason of a new forward line and new game style, it's a work in progress.I'd rather we worked on improving on our efficiency I50 over just 'getting it in there'. I don't think against the better teams in the season proper we're going to be getting the type of midfield dominance that'll allow us to go for this type of quantity over quality approach.
I'd rather we worked on improving on our efficiency I50 over just 'getting it in there'. I don't think against the better teams in the season proper we're going to be getting the type of midfield dominance that'll allow us to go for this type of quantity over quality approach.
I wouldn't call it dominance, but we were far from killed in the middle. We lost the hit outs, but won clearances, stoppages, contested possessions and tackles - I'd say that was a good win for us considering the quality of the Collingwood midfield.Are you suggesting that on Monday we had midfield dominance over Collingwood?
We got high inside 50s despite getting killed in the middle. If we dominate the middle we might get cleaner i50s.
We'll meet in between. Killed is a bit harsh but when Sidey, Pendles, Beams and Phillips get 118 between them, the midfield had a fair day out.I wouldn't call it dominance, but we were far from killed in the middle. We lost the hit outs, but won clearances, stoppages, contested possessions and tackles - I'd say that was a good win for us considering the quality of the Collingwood midfield.
The worrying thing is the disparity in overall disposals, which goes back to our old "Hawthorn" issue that we turn the ball over and once the opposition gets the ball we don't seem able to get it back!
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I’m not backing off from anything, running up score against a crap team is meaningless.Is that so? Perhaps it's for the best you've moved away from trying to use a veneer of "stats" to cling to your pov, not really a strong suit.
I would guess your point from that highly selective use of stats was that i50's are irrelevant to any increase in scoring for Lyon's coaching. I'd need to have a bigger sample to make any firm conclusions, but 2009 would suggest generally the more the better for scoring. Also more i50's might be more helpful to scoring than less.
Given the skinny supply last year, the big increase over the weekend suggests there are changes to the plan to aid scoring. We'll have to see how solid that is, but it'd be churlish to not see that as a more attacking approach.
I wouldn't call it dominance, but we were far from killed in the middle. We lost the hit outs, but won clearances, stoppages, contested possessions and tackles - I'd say that was a good win for us considering the quality of the Collingwood midfield.
The worrying thing is the disparity in overall disposals, which goes back to our old "Hawthorn" issue that we turn the ball over and once the opposition gets the ball we don't seem able to get it back!
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Perhaps old was the wrong word, I should have said long-standing
Here's a little question to ponder on a rainy Wednesday arvoI’m not backing off from anything, running up score against a crap team is meaningless.
Ross has serious flaws in his style, yet 13 years into his senior career people still want tor pretend he’s about to unleash something new. When does the gloss come off?
Perhaps old was the wrong word, I should have said long-standing