Crisis meeting - Hun reports

[The acurate one]

Durdin's dunces apt replacement you all thinking?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Simple answer is, by trying to make it better for those not as lucky, you're not guaranteed to make it better at all. An example being, getting rid of sexual harassment which is most definitely a great achievement. But try and push it any further and you create a bucket of frivolous claims that destroys careers of people like Geoffrey Rush and others.

Same goes for LGBT - the fact it's perfectly legal is great. The fact that de facto rights apply as per the rest of society, great but we don't stop there. Legislate for gay marriage - you'd think now we have full equality. But no, we now introduce education about homosexuality to primary schools and allow sex change to kids way before their adult age. Not old enough to have sex legally, but old enough to have a sex change? Why not! And we aren't stopping here. Now we want quotas for women at workplaces, quotas for indigenous people, and on we go. Never mind about being the best fit for the role? No, we are more interested in "equalizing" for the sake of equalizing.

Is it about making the world a better place? I reckon it's far past this point, but most people who support all that certainly mean well, but where that takes us is another question.

Sometimes leaving things as they are is a much better solution, but it's far too late for that.

Neuroses are now a legitimate means to a control over society.

The asylum is under new management.

 

[hotham]

We haven't played a decent game in Adelaide since... I can't remember the last decent game we played there.

So we will need to take cover

 

[rickety]

a supporter - not a member !!

I didn't ask mate, I moved on pretty quickly tbh

 

[koshari]

We haven't played a decent game in Adelaide since... I can't remember the last decent game we played there.

You cant remember taz because it hasnt happened. Unless you got one of those total recall style memory implants.

 

[gokangas]

Now Kingy chimes in.

North Melbourne has lost the Shinboner spirit, writes David King
David King, Herald Sun
April 24, 2019 4:04pm
There are too many “visitors” at Arden St.

“Visitors” being short-to-medium term occupants who either don’t believe in North Melbourne’s heart and soul — The Shinboner — or have not embraced the club’s beliefs.
The Shinboner is a unifying, overarching ethos that not only embraces the struggles of the past but sets the bare minimum standards that this once great football club demands.
North Melbourne’s culture was born from the Shinboner and has always been about its people, past and present.
Often it was all we had.
So the question need to be asked: Is Brad Scott a visitor?
After 10 years at the helm, if it all finished today, what would his legacy as coach look like?
To my mind, Scott either misinterpreted or simply wasn’t a subscriber to “The Shinboner Spirit” upon arrival at the club.
Perhaps it’s more important for the rusted-on Kangaroos fan and the football club that our ethos remains intact.
But right now it’s significantly more important to Scott and his side than any tactic or moving of player magnets.
Relationships are in fashion, regarding coach to player and coach to staff and so on.
We’ve witnessed Damien Hardwick and Nathan Buckley shift their focus over the past couple of seasons to redefine their priorities, with stunning success.
Has Scott undergone that same transformation?
All great cultures possess tremendous player unity driven by the stars, from Wayne Schimmelbusch to Wayne Carey. Or even further back, as legend has it, by Les Foote and John Dugdale types.
But I can only identify with the Carey model that had all players, trainers and staff on the same equal peg.
Carey was a true cultural driver who stamped a one-in, all-in philosophy.
Does this playing group enjoy the same bond?
The loss of Geoff Walsh as director of football cannot be understated.
His preparedness to engage in difficult conversations and arrest areas of concern, or at bare minimum raise an alarm, are missing right now.
On-field, the game plan is failing.
Opposition sides score against North Melbourne with an uncomfortable ease and it’s been that way for years.
Disturbingly, the much-lauded brutal contested ball asset has dissipated to the point of becoming docile.
When all else is lost clubs retreat to their core foundation, their identity and what they stand for, but what are the current non-negotiables at Arden St?
We don’t want Scott the coach, we want Scott the player.
Ben Cunnington and Scott Thompson have played in the right manner with 100 per cent effort, 100 per cent of the time.
They never throw in the towel and make Kangaroo fans proud, but others must get on board.
When was the last time the captain grabbed a game by the throat?
Jack Ziebell cannot have a repeat of last week’s six disposal, zero tackle stat sheet.
His physical presence has such an emotional influence on this group, but he must spend time at the coalface, in the true midfield on Friday night.
Has the glut of free agency acquisitions of the previous four to five years watered down and diluted the deep-seated passion for the club, over and above the pure financial gain?
Are these “consultants”, who have been selected for a specific needs in the short term, buying in to the total team requirements?
The uncontested nature of how some are playing would suggest there are worrying signs.
Jared Polec, Aaron Hall and this season’s version of Shaun Higgins are swanning around the ground prioritising uncontested football and personal statistical reward over the team needs, which include all defensive actions.
Regardless of all else the spotlight of Friday night football, when the club has its back to the wall, has always been the domain of the “Shinboner”.
Playing Port Adelaide provides the perfect opportunity for North to reignite a season drifting aimlessly into the abyss.
The Power are following the outstanding leadership of Travis Boak, Ollie Wines and Tom Jonas, but still possess much inexperience.
North Melbourne must seek to ambush the Power in the same manner as Richmond only a
fortnight ago.
When these Kangaroos pull on the royal blue and white vertical stripes they must be prepared to fight tooth and nail for victory with a desire that doesn’t settle for near enough is good enough.
It’s season on the line at the Adelaide Oval.
It takes a lot for the North Melbourne faithful to stir, but they are agitated.
I’m convinced there will be an all-club review, from top to bottom, at season’s end and I fear a broom will be swept through Arden St.
But just how long those brushes will be could be determined over the next three months.
I accept that when discussing North Melbourne, I’m accused either of being too supportive, or the contrary, turning on the club that gave me all that I enjoy.
But I write this because I care.
What I’d give to select Glenn Archer, John Law and Jimmy Krakouer at the selection table tonight, not on talent, but effort alone.

 

[koshari]

There'd want to be a fair degree of rigour around any process involving the handing over of Crown Land at a non market rate.

99 year lease for the win.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Simple answer is, by trying to make it better for those not as lucky, you're not guaranteed to make it better at all. An example being, getting rid of sexual harassment which is most definitely a great achievement. But try and push it any further and you create a bucket of frivolous claims that destroys careers of people like Geoffrey Rush and others.

Same goes for LGBT - the fact it's perfectly legal is great. The fact that de facto rights apply as per the rest of society, great but we don't stop there. Legislate for gay marriage - you'd think now we have full equality. But no, we now introduce education about homosexuality to primary schools and allow sex change to kids way before their adult age. Not old enough to have sex legally, but old enough to have a sex change? Why not! And we aren't stopping here. Now we want quotas for women at workplaces, quotas for indigenous people, and on we go. Never mind about being the best fit for the role? No, we are more interested in "equalizing" for the sake of equalizing.

Is it about making the world a better place? I reckon it's far past this point, but most people who support all that certainly mean well, but where that takes us is another question.

Sometimes leaving things as they are is a much better solution, but it's far too late for that.

The problem is it's often those who aren't LGBTI, indigenous, female etc who have the strongest opinions on what it's like for them in everyday life.

 

[Tas]

Had a good win in ‘97 without Carey

22 years ago is a long time between drinks. You wouldn't want your life hinging on a North victory in Adelaide.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The problem is it's often those who aren't LGBTI, indigenous, female etc who have the strongest opinions on what it's like for them in everyday life.

There are laws to protect these people. Prejudice based upon sexuality, gender and race has been outlawed for decades.

This ongoing crap is a ridiculous power play, utilised by select groups of neurotics, or straight up political extremists, facilitated by political and "academic" opportunists and their feeble minded minions.

 

[koshari]

The problem is it's often those who aren't LGBTI, indigenous, female etc who have the strongest opinions on what it's like for them in everyday life.

I beleive its actually LGBQTI now.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

22 years ago is a long time between drinks. You wouldn't want your life hinging on a North victory in Adelaide.

I remember a decent one in the wet in 2003 or 2004. Harris starred and Jez Clayton kicked a couple of key goals late on.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Simple answer is, by trying to make it better for those not as lucky, you're not guaranteed to make it better at all. An example being, getting rid of sexual harassment which is most definitely a great achievement. But try and push it any further and you create a bucket of frivolous claims that destroys careers of people like Geoffrey Rush and others.

Same goes for LGBT - the fact it's perfectly legal is great. The fact that de facto rights apply as per the rest of society, great but we don't stop there. Legislate for gay marriage - you'd think now we have full equality. But no, we now introduce education about homosexuality to primary schools and allow sex change to kids way before their adult age. Not old enough to have sex legally, but old enough to have a sex change? Why not! And we aren't stopping here. Now we want quotas for women at workplaces, quotas for indigenous people, and on we go. Never mind about being the best fit for the role? No, we are more interested in "equalizing" for the sake of equalizing.

Is it about making the world a better place? I reckon it's far past this point, but most people who support all that certainly mean well, but where that takes us is another question.

Sometimes leaving things as they are is a much better solution, but it's far too late for that.

Yeah except none of that really happens does it. How many under 16s in Aus have had a sex change? How many workplaces have quotas for female or indigenous representation? There is sex education about homosexuality in primary schools I guess, but what's wrong with that?
What generally happens is that more progressive workplaces remove impediments to under-represented groups (flexible work arrangements, indigenous cadetships) and generally speaking reap the rewards of having a more diverse workforce. Or LGBTIQ children and young adults have their identities acknowledged and have reduced rates of self-harm, suicide and bullying. I think that's a better world.

 

[Snake_Baker]

How many workplaces have quotas for female or indigenous representation?

Hang on, why does that even exist? It's straight up sexism and racism.

What generally happens is that more progressive workplaces remove impediments to under-represented groups (flexible work arrangements, indigenous cadetships) and generally speaking reap the rewards of having a more diverse workforce

What impediments?

 

[Snake_Baker]

"The loss of Geoff Walsh as director of football cannot be understated. His preparedness to engage in difficult conversations and arrest areas of concern, or at bare minimum raise an alarm, are missing right now."

BINGO!

 

[Snake_Baker]

Now Kingy chimes in.

North Melbourne has lost the Shinboner spirit, writes David King
David King, Herald Sun
April 24, 2019 4:04pm
There are too many “visitors” at Arden St.

“Visitors” being short-to-medium term occupants who either don’t believe in North Melbourne’s heart and soul — The Shinboner — or have not embraced the club’s beliefs.
The Shinboner is a unifying, overarching ethos that not only embraces the struggles of the past but sets the bare minimum standards that this once great football club demands.
North Melbourne’s culture was born from the Shinboner and has always been about its people, past and present.
Often it was all we had.
So the question need to be asked: Is Brad Scott a visitor?
After 10 years at the helm, if it all finished today, what would his legacy as coach look like?
To my mind, Scott either misinterpreted or simply wasn’t a subscriber to “The Shinboner Spirit” upon arrival at the club.
Perhaps it’s more important for the rusted-on Kangaroos fan and the football club that our ethos remains intact.
But right now it’s significantly more important to Scott and his side than any tactic or moving of player magnets.
Relationships are in fashion, regarding coach to player and coach to staff and so on.
We’ve witnessed Damien Hardwick and Nathan Buckley shift their focus over the past couple of seasons to redefine their priorities, with stunning success.
Has Scott undergone that same transformation?
All great cultures possess tremendous player unity driven by the stars, from Wayne Schimmelbusch to Wayne Carey. Or even further back, as legend has it, by Les Foote and John Dugdale types.
But I can only identify with the Carey model that had all players, trainers and staff on the same equal peg.
Carey was a true cultural driver who stamped a one-in, all-in philosophy.
Does this playing group enjoy the same bond?
The loss of Geoff Walsh as director of football cannot be understated.
His preparedness to engage in difficult conversations and arrest areas of concern, or at bare minimum raise an alarm, are missing right now.
On-field, the game plan is failing.
Opposition sides score against North Melbourne with an uncomfortable ease and it’s been that way for years.
Disturbingly, the much-lauded brutal contested ball asset has dissipated to the point of becoming docile.
When all else is lost clubs retreat to their core foundation, their identity and what they stand for, but what are the current non-negotiables at Arden St?
We don’t want Scott the coach, we want Scott the player.
Ben Cunnington and Scott Thompson have played in the right manner with 100 per cent effort, 100 per cent of the time.
They never throw in the towel and make Kangaroo fans proud, but others must get on board.
When was the last time the captain grabbed a game by the throat?
Jack Ziebell cannot have a repeat of last week’s six disposal, zero tackle stat sheet.
His physical presence has such an emotional influence on this group, but he must spend time at the coalface, in the true midfield on Friday night.
Has the glut of free agency acquisitions of the previous four to five years watered down and diluted the deep-seated passion for the club, over and above the pure financial gain?
Are these “consultants”, who have been selected for a specific needs in the short term, buying in to the total team requirements?
The uncontested nature of how some are playing would suggest there are worrying signs.
Jared Polec, Aaron Hall and this season’s version of Shaun Higgins are swanning around the ground prioritising uncontested football and personal statistical reward over the team needs, which include all defensive actions.
Regardless of all else the spotlight of Friday night football, when the club has its back to the wall, has always been the domain of the “Shinboner”.
Playing Port Adelaide provides the perfect opportunity for North to reignite a season drifting aimlessly into the abyss.
The Power are following the outstanding leadership of Travis Boak, Ollie Wines and Tom Jonas, but still possess much inexperience.
North Melbourne must seek to ambush the Power in the same manner as Richmond only a
fortnight ago.
When these Kangaroos pull on the royal blue and white vertical stripes they must be prepared to fight tooth and nail for victory with a desire that doesn’t settle for near enough is good enough.
It’s season on the line at the Adelaide Oval.
It takes a lot for the North Melbourne faithful to stir, but they are agitated.
I’m convinced there will be an all-club review, from top to bottom, at season’s end and I fear a broom will be swept through Arden St.
But just how long those brushes will be could be determined over the next three months.
I accept that when discussing North Melbourne, I’m accused either of being too supportive, or the contrary, turning on the club that gave me all that I enjoy.
But I write this because I care.
What I’d give to select Glenn Archer, John Law and Jimmy Krakouer at the selection table tonight, not on talent, but effort alone.

That's the best and most honest critique of the club that I have read in years.

Bravo, Kingy! Bravo!

It should be printed out and wallpapered up and down the length of Arden Street.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Hang on, why does that even exist? It's straight up sexism and racism.

Because society couldn't be trusted to not discriminate by itself.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

So after the massive moral outrage that the Huddle was the root of our problems on the field has disappeared, we've now moved back to moral outrage about moniorities.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Because society couldn't be trusted to not discriminate by itself.

You are going to overcome discrimination....................WITH discrimination? Do you give any of these concepts more than a split second of analysis?

This is power politics. It's the same shit that we needed equality laws for in the first place. The only difference is that one set of perversions were based upon a fake implied superiority, that did not exist, and the new set of perversions are now being assembled based upon a fake implied subjugation, that does not exist. Can't you see that?

So after the massive moral outrage that the Huddle was the root of our problems on the field has disappeared, we've now moved back to moral outrage about moniorities.

You're not the full quid either. Move past the initial emotional response and start thinking deeper about things mate.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

You are going to overcome discrimination....................WITH discrimination? Do you give any of these concepts more than a split second of analysis?

This is power politics. It's the same shit that we needed equality laws for in the first place. The only difference is that one set of perversions were based upon a fake implied superiority, that did not exist, and the new set of perversions are now being assembled based upon a fake implied subjugation, that does not exist. Can't you see that?



You're not the full quid either.

Haha, I'm not the one yelling out clouds in every thread.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Haha, I'm not the one yelling out clouds in every thread.

There it is again. As soon as you are challenged on this absurdity, it's the automatic reverting to teenage level reverse psychological ploys. You have no better response. Grow up for ****s sake.

 

[fnqroo4life]

I can't believe we're still on about the Huddle, I wanted to leave this here for opinions/thoughts just in case we'd moved on.

On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Snake_Baker]

Of course, they're keen. They'll also want rotating gate takings. Parasites leeching off us as they have done for over 100 years.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

There it is again. As soon as you are challenged on this absurdity, it's the automatic reverting to teenage level reverse psychological ploys. Grow up for ****s sake.

Haha, once again.

You edited your response after I quoted you. You're original quote was just your stock standard insult that you revert too, and you're telling me to grow up.

 

[Snake_Baker]

You edited your response after I quoted you. You're original quote was just your stock standard insult that you revert too, and your telling me to grow up.

You're welcome to update to adult level discussion whenever you're ready.

Haha, once once again.

Maybe not.