The classic was in 2008 against the Saints in the second prelim. We went hard to Mark Williams all night. He kicked 5.4. Rough kicked 4 straight and Buddy was largely unsighted after toweling up the Bulldogs with 8 goals the week before. Was Clarko at his best.I liked Clarkos face when Scott was talking about the Lions using Hipwood as a decoy and Cameron as the focal point against them....
Clarko was thinking we have been trying that same tactic with Cyril and Poppy the past 10 years and Fagan is now getting credit for it
The only one I don’t want to lose is Smith.Now let's take a deeper, objective look at this Carlton and Hawthorn situation with Coniglio.
We hear regularly that our list is old and on the decline, though admittedly that's really heard on here than in the media. But we also hear about Carlton's great young list everywhere. They are a team on the rise - so why would Coniglio want to go anywhere else?
Here's a look at the depth lists of both teams, and the ages of the players at the start of next season:
(Ok I've got no idea how the flip the image)
And here is what the best 22 would both look like with Coniglio in the side, and a few trades that we expect (Patton and Martin) and some other player movements that seem likely to happen.
Hawthorn 2020
Stratton (31) - Frawley (31) - Hardwick (23)
Jiath (20) - Sicily (25) - Scrimshaw (21)
Big Boy (30) - Jaeger (26) - Mitchell (26)
Henderson (31) - Coniglio (26) - Scully (28)
Wingard (26) - Lewis (21) - Gunston (28)
Breust (29) - Patton (26) - Hanrahan (21)
Worpel (21)
O'Brien (26)
Shiels (28)
Nash (21)
Average age: 25.68
Now this is all assuming that Burgoyne and Birchall take the GCS deals, that Puopolo is phased out or traded, and that Smith is traded (which seems likely).
And keep in mind a key player in Impey (24) will be sidelined for a while. IMO he will be the Burgoyne utility replacement in the long run.
The key concerns for mine are finding a FB to eventually take over from Frawley, a CHB so that Sicily can play a more natural rebounding role, and a ruckman to take over from Big Boy.
Carlton 2020
Newman (27) - Jones (29) - Simpson (35)
Docherty (26) - Weitering (22) - Marchbank (23)
Kreuzer (30) - Cripps (25) - E. Curnow (30)
Murphy (32) - Coniglio (26) - Walsh (19)
C. Curnow (23) - McKay (22) - Martin (25)
Fisher (21) - Casboult (30) - McGovern (25)
SPS (22)
Plowman (25)
Setterfield (22)
Silvagni (22)
Average age: 25.50
Now having a look at the depth chart it's safe so say that they do have a lot of talent on paper that will be fighting out for the last positions in the side - Dow, O'Brien, Gibbons, etc. So they may phase out Murphy, Simpson and Casboult next year which would reduce their age profile further. But those guys have shown nothing compared to the old heads that are still playing good footy (Simpson is ageless like Burgoyne).
Their chief concerns IMO mirror ours, in that they need a ruck and FB to come through. Though they do have Weitering who IMO is a very good young KPD.
Anyway as you can see there is a negligible difference in the age profiles in those teams, which are realistically what we will see next season.
With Impey out, we will still need him.
Here’s the footage of Clarko’s run yesterdayWhen Clarko mentioned “Cogs” my ears did prick. I knew he spoke to him when they played them in Canberra. I thought he would have called him ConiglioClarko was seen running along the beach at Coogee yesterday morning. Apparently he was talking to a prospective assistant coach in Sydney.
Agree Smiths last two weeks have been superb. One of my favs and would hate to see him play anywhere else. The Bulldogs look dangerous atm and with him the the side would be lethal through the middle.The only one I don’t want to lose is Smith.
Ahh, but is a clock not running to exact time truly 'broken'?
A sense of sanity on this thread
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That is what i beleive we're trying to do. Trying to turn our first pick into a higher one.
Now let's take a deeper, objective look at this Carlton and Hawthorn situation with Coniglio.
We hear regularly that our list is old and on the decline, though admittedly that's really heard on here than in the media. But we also hear about Carlton's great young list everywhere. They are a team on the rise - so why would Coniglio want to go anywhere else?
Here's a look at the depth lists of both teams, and the ages of the players at the start of next season:
(Ok I've got no idea how the flip the image)
And here is what the best 22 would both look like with Coniglio in the side, and a few trades that we expect (Patton and Martin) and some other player movements that seem likely to happen.
Hawthorn 2020
Stratton (31) - Frawley (31) - Hardwick (23)
Jiath (20) - Sicily (25) - Scrimshaw (21)
Big Boy (30) - Jaeger (26) - Mitchell (26)
Henderson (31) - Coniglio (26) - Scully (28)
Wingard (26) - Lewis (21) - Gunston (28)
Breust (29) - Patton (26) - Hanrahan (21)
Worpel (21)
O'Brien (26)
Shiels (28)
Nash (21)
Average age: 25.68
Now this is all assuming that Burgoyne and Birchall take the GCS deals, that Puopolo is phased out or traded, and that Smith is traded (which seems likely).
And keep in mind a key player in Impey (24) will be sidelined for a while. IMO he will be the Burgoyne utility replacement in the long run.
The key concerns for mine are finding a FB to eventually take over from Frawley, a CHB so that Sicily can play a more natural rebounding role, and a ruckman to take over from Big Boy.
Carlton 2020
Newman (27) - Jones (29) - Simpson (35)
Docherty (26) - Weitering (22) - Marchbank (23)
Kreuzer (30) - Cripps (25) - E. Curnow (30)
Murphy (32) - Coniglio (26) - Walsh (19)
C. Curnow (23) - McKay (22) - Martin (25)
Fisher (21) - Casboult (30) - McGovern (25)
SPS (22)
Plowman (25)
Setterfield (22)
Silvagni (22)
Average age: 25.50
Now having a look at the depth chart it's safe so say that they do have a lot of talent on paper that will be fighting out for the last positions in the side - Dow, O'Brien, Gibbons, etc. So they may phase out Murphy, Simpson and Casboult next year which would reduce their age profile further. But those guys have shown nothing compared to the old heads that are still playing good footy (Simpson is ageless like Burgoyne).
Their chief concerns IMO mirror ours, in that they need a ruck and FB to come through. Though they do have Weitering who IMO is a very good young KPD.
Anyway as you can see there is a negligible difference in the age profiles in those teams, which are realistically what we will see next season.
A few years ago I had a chat with one of the top guys at champion data and he told me that they keep extensive records on junior footballers which they track through a players career. He said it's as you'd expect with a lot of the top juniors going on to be brilliant AFL footballers. So I asked him the obvious question - who was the best junior footballer they'd monitored statically. And he said in just about every department is was Jack Martin.
Petracca!!!!!We are keen on a Demon.
