2023 Hawthorn List Management Discussion (including Trade, FA period)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Jacob Edwards is a bit of a bust at this point, 2 and a half seasons for 0 senior games. Plus his VFL form has been woeful - averages less than 10 disposals, 10 hitouts and never more than a goal in a game.

norf.

 

[bigmaxi]

Yes, I agree that the chances of us finding a diamond in the midseason draft now that the pathways of opened up again for players to be seen and develop, but I still think there’s a higher chance of us finding another good kid then there is of Brown being the answer to any question that we have.

I agree, most importantly if a spot isn't kept open what do we talk about here mid season!!!????

 

[SpanishBrowne]

I agree, most importantly if a spot isn't kept open what do we talk about here mid season!!!????

who will have to beat us during finals

 

[Brant]

I agree, most importantly if a spot isn't kept open what do we talk about here mid season!!!????

Whether or not we paid too much when trading for Wingard, at a guess...

 

[Judd2Sewell]

norf.

I'm pretty sure we'd have taken him if he was available, so they did us a favour.

 

[Noel Gallagher]

I'm pretty sure we'd have taken him if he was available, so they did us a favour.

I doubt that we would have taken him over Newcomb

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I doubt that we would have taken him over Newcomb

Not what I was told, we'd have risked Newcombe dropping to our second pick

 

[Dewnior]

What does it matter? The chances of us miraculously uncovering another Newcombe in the MSD is tiny. What the club chooses to do with the last spot on the list is as uninteresting and unimportant to me as what they choose to do with the last pick in the draft.

I think the chances of us finding another player in the midseason draft, are still probably higher than the chances of us actually needing Brown on the list.

I’d much rather we kept the spot open and wait to see what players jump up from nowhere in other leagues.

Plus all the bottom agers that missed getting picked up last year get another 9 months of development.

Besides, it's a rookie spot so better to take the risk than spend the pick now

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'm pretty sure we'd have taken him if he was available, so they did us a favour.

My comment is in regards to how they develop players.

 

[theiaofseed]

Not what I was told, we'd have risked Newcombe dropping to our second pick

Nope, we wanted Newcombe and knew he'd never make it to our second pick.

 

[Dewnior]

Nope, we wanted Newcombe and knew he'd never make it to our second pick.

Not quite true. We tried to get him with our second pick by getting him to nominate conditions but there were clubs that were still prepared to take him in the first round.

 

[arupist]

Not quite true. We tried to get him with our second pick by getting him to nominate conditions but there were clubs that were still prepared to take him in the first round.

So what he said was true.

 

[grumbleguts]

All this talk about comparing the chances of finding gold in the MSD against the chances of Callum Brown finding some form.

Poowong thirds has at least another 30 players.

 

[Jet_black]

Are we likely to sign anyone for SSP at the end of today?

Brown or Waackt or none

 

[TylerDurden]

I'd say we won't be.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[KermitJagger]

Wise choice. Definitely no star, Cousins level competitor.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Completely expected

 

[Since 2001]

I think this might be a defining year for dgb, maybe if improvement doesnt show a trade back to a w.a team

 

[Davo-27]

Leadership Group, voted by players and coaches

James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

- Captain
Luke Breust

22

Luke Breust

Age

33

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

4.8

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

1.8

5star

- VC
Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

- VC
Jarman Impey
Mitch Lewis
Sam Frost

8

Sam Frost

Age

30

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

191.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

191.6

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

Great bunch of guys, I think we're in good hands with these guys.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

I think this might be a defining year for dgb, maybe if improvement doesnt show a trade back to a w.a team

Gee I really hope we are more patient than that with a young tall defender.

We are giving him a footballing education out of his comfort zone. He needs to learn how to defend one on one for when we are challenging in a few years. We know he can intercept mark.

Plus he has been playing in a side with the leagues worst midfield. It only gets better for DGB from here...or maybe 2024 if we have a season of few wins.

 

[The Chad and I]

Leadership Group, voted by players and coaches

James Sicily - Captain
Luke Breust - VC
Dylan Moore - VC
Jarman Impey
Mitch Lewis
Sam Frost

Great bunch of guys, I think we're in good hands with these guys.

Compared to what?
Pretty thin list tbh, and I really like them all as players.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Leadership Group, voted by players and coaches

James Sicily - Captain
Luke Breust - VC
Dylan Moore - VC
Jarman Impey
Mitch Lewis
Sam Frost

Great bunch of guys, I think we're in good hands with these guys.

Pick 56
Rookie
Pick 67
Trade
Pick 76
Trade

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Compared to what?
Pretty thin list tbh, and I really like them all as players.

Yeah not the most inspiring list ATM, but we're unlikely to see the likes of Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis and Burgoyne again.

Though I think Moore in particular will prove to be a great leader. Moore and Lewis are both relatively young leaders as well.

We also have a group of even younger guys coming through that are all showing leadership traits - Ward in particular (expect him to move into the leadership group at some stage) and Finn are leading the way.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Yeah not the most inspiring list ATM, but we're unlikely to see the likes of Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis and Burgoyne again.

Though I think Moore in particular will prove to be a great leader. Moore and Lewis are both relatively young leaders as well.

We also have a group of even younger guys coming through that are all showing leadership traits - Ward in particular (expect him to move into the leadership group at some stage) and Finn are leading the way.

I’ve no doubt m the likes of Day, Ward, DGB etc will be a pretty amazing leadership group in 3-5 years.