List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management 2023

[peetoo]

He said it himself, I still remember him giving the tip live on tv . Everybody had given their tip and they all went with Sydney from about 3 to 5 goals and then tried to make a bigshot of himself and actually said "Well nobody else is going to say it so I will !Sydney by 68 points" . There was 100 percent no misunderstanding .

He got the margin close

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

He got the margin close

Gerard Healy topped King. He went 3 finals series in a row during the three peat era where he didn't once tip the Hawks in any of the finals they played. Not one final across 2013-2015

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Gerard Healy topped King. He went 3 finals series in a row during the three peat era where he didn't once tip the Hawks in any of the finals they played. Not one final across 2013-2015

Nah, he tipped us against Adelaide in 2015.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Nah, he tipped us against Adelaide in 2015.

I will take your word for it but it must have been through gritted teeth and the only instance then

 

[unitedhawk]

Gerard Healy topped King. He went 3 finals series in a row during the three peat era where he didn't once tip the Hawks in any of the finals they played. Not one final across 2013-2015

The only defence I can offer for Healy is that we were (betting) underdogs in each of those three GFs against Freo, Sydney and WCE - pretty sure I'm right about that but wouldn't put my house on it.

Edit: Sorry, just realised you said finals, not GFs.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

The only defence I can offer for Healy is that we were (betting) underdogs in each of those three GFs against Freo, Sydney and WCE - pretty sure I'm right about that but wouldn't put my house on it.

I dont think that is true. You are probably remembering all the re-written history from offended opposition supporters

 

[unitedhawk]

I dont think that is true. You are probably remembering all the re-written history from offended opposition supporters

Yeah, just googled it and you're right - we were favourites in 2013 and 2015.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

This puts Gerard's tipping into perspective during those finals.
We started favourite in every final except for the one in which we destroyed his beloved Swans.

2013

Qualifying - Haw v Syd - 54 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.60, Line -10.5 @ 1.91

Sydney Betting Odds: Win 2.40, Line +10.5 @ 1.91

Prelim - Haw v Gee - 5 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.48, Line -11.5 @ 1.90

Geelong Betting Odds: Win 2.60, Line +11.5 @ 1.90

GF - Haw v Fre - 15 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.62, Line -8.5 @ 1.92

Fremantle Betting Odds: Win 2.30, Line +8.5 @ 1.92

2014

Qualifying - Haw v Gee - 36 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.52, Line -13.5 @ 1.91

Geelong Betting Odds: Win 2.60, Line +13.5 @ 1.91

Prelim - Haw v Port - 3 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.30, Line -21.5 @ 1.91

Port Adelaide Betting Odds: Win 3.70, Line +21.5 @ 1.91

GF - Haw v Syd- 63 points WIN

Sydney Betting Odds: Win 1.65, Line -7.5 @ 1.92

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 2.30, Line +7.5 @ 1.92

2015

Qualifying - WC v Haw - 32 points LOSS

West Coast Betting Odds: Win 2.42, Line +7.5 @ 1.95

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.60, Line -7.5 @ 1.85

Semi - Haw v Ade - 74 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.37, Line -24.5 @ 1.91

Adelaide Betting Odds: Win 3.25, Line +24.5 @ 1.91

Prelim - Fre v Haw - 37 points WIN

Fremantle Betting Odds: Win 2.15, Line +6.5 @ 1.91

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.74, Line -6.5 @ 1.91

GF - Haw v WC - 46 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.63, Line -9.5 @ 1.91

West Coast Betting Odds: Win 2.40, Line +9.5 @ 1.91

 

[unitedhawk]

This puts Gerard's tipping into perspective during those finals.
We started favourite in every final except for the one in which we destroyed his beloved Swans.

2013

Qualifying - Haw v Syd - 54 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.60, Line -10.5 @ 1.91

Sydney Betting Odds: Win 2.40, Line +10.5 @ 1.91

Prelim - Haw v Gee - 5 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.48, Line -11.5 @ 1.90

Geelong Betting Odds: Win 2.60, Line +11.5 @ 1.90

GF - Haw v Fre - 15 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.62, Line -8.5 @ 1.92

Fremantle Betting Odds: Win 2.30, Line +8.5 @ 1.92

2014

Qualifying - Haw v Gee - 36 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.52, Line -13.5 @ 1.91

Geelong Betting Odds: Win 2.60, Line +13.5 @ 1.91

Prelim - Haw v Port - 3 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.30, Line -21.5 @ 1.91

Port Adelaide Betting Odds: Win 3.70, Line +21.5 @ 1.91

GF - Haw v Syd- 63 points WIN

Sydney Betting Odds: Win 1.65, Line -7.5 @ 1.92

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 2.30, Line +7.5 @ 1.92

2015

Qualifying - WC v Haw - 32 points LOSS

West Coast Betting Odds: Win 2.42, Line +7.5 @ 1.95

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.60, Line -7.5 @ 1.85

Semi - Haw v Ade - 74 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.37, Line -24.5 @ 1.91

Adelaide Betting Odds: Win 3.25, Line +24.5 @ 1.91

Prelim - Fre v Haw - 37 points WIN

Fremantle Betting Odds: Win 2.15, Line +6.5 @ 1.91

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.74, Line -6.5 @ 1.91

GF - Haw v WC - 46 points WIN

Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win 1.63, Line -9.5 @ 1.91

West Coast Betting Odds: Win 2.40, Line +9.5 @ 1.91

Wow!

Is there any rational explanation for his (historical) reluctance to tip us? He never struck me as an ABH (Anyone But Hawthorn).

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The numbers say otherwise. Not elite but clearly above average.

He’s never kicked 50 goals or more, and in 2023 averaged just 2.2 marks inside 50 a game which is considered ‘average’ by AFL standards.

He does still get 3.5 shots on goal a game as he is a good ground level player, but if we’re discussing Mihocek as a reference point of what we need in our forward half from a Key, his output would be the bare minimum.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wow!

Is there any rational explanation for his (historical) reluctance to tip us? He never struck me as an ABH (Anyone But Hawthorn).

He does absolutely LOVE Freo.

But yeah, Gerard seems to have a very strong grudge against the Hawks to have never tipped us even when we were so clearly such a dominant force.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I will take your word for it but it must have been through gritted teeth and the only instance then

Amazing he only tipped us once out of 10

 

[HawthornHawk]

In which case you'd be 100% wrong - no offence.

Haha nah mate see here

 

[unitedhawk]

Haha nah mate see here

My post was about what he said on 360.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

 

[arupist]

He definitely called 68 points on Fox. Was even put up on the screen along with all the other panel predictions, all of whom picked Shitney.

I know this because I went searching you tube just yesterday to hear for myself. Found it. 1:02:40 mark

2014 AFL GF Pre-game

 

[goldfinger]

Lloyd Meek at the 'G today with Hugh McCluggage

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Hugh Mccluggage

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

19.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

. Excellent future strategising by the Hawks as I'm sure Big Lloyd was getting into his ear about making the move south ;-p

 

[peetoo]

Media generally seems to have myopia where Geelong and Sydney are concerned

 

[arupist]

Media generally seems to have myopia where Geelong and Sydney are concerned

More like Mycology.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Wow!

Is there any rational explanation for his (historical) reluctance to tip us? He never struck me as an ABH (Anyone But Hawthorn).

Gerard is so far up Gerard it’s amazing how much admiration he receives.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Lloyd Meek at the 'G today with Hugh McCluggage. Excellent future strategising by the Hawks as I'm sure Big Lloyd was getting into his ear about making the move south ;-p

Bring the Scottish Suitcase to Hawthorn!

 

[HawthornHawk]

My post was about what he said on 360.

That's not what I was commenting on- years later on radio he claimed that his message to the Fox Footy producer was that the Swans winning margin would be 6-8 goals but that it was misinterpreted.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

That's not what I was commenting on- years later on radio he claimed that his message to the Fox Footy producer was that the Swans winning margin would be 6-8 goals but that it was misinterpreted.

I reckon he was talking s**t there as they all clearly picked a specific margin. I suppose 6 to 8 goals is only about 20 to 32 points less stupid.

 

[Brant]

That's not what I was commenting on- years later on radio he claimed that his message to the Fox Footy producer was that the Swans winning margin would be 6-8 goals but that it was misinterpreted.

You don't say (out loud) "6 dash 8 goals".

If he said it, it would've been "6 to 8 goals"; which, using his 'misinterpreted story', would've been (mis)heard as "68 goals".

Unlikely (IMO), that the Producer at Fox Footy heard "68 goals" & decided to fix it for him. Much more likely (again, IMO) is that he thought $ydney would win comfortably & wanted to be the one smart-ass that "called it".

I've no doubt he called $ydney by 68 points, then back-tracked like a pussy when he was ~120 points off

 

[Steven Tyler]

Fk sakes get over it