Coach #34: Jamie Macmillan - delisted after 167 NM games/46 NM goals - returns as NMFC AFL Footy Ops boss (reporting to L.Kane)

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Yeah maybe as a back up if there’s an injury. I certainly wouldn’t be tipping Polec or Dumont out to manufacture a spot for Macmillan.

Same. But he played higher up in early 2010s and looked better.

 

[Passmore]

Same. But he played higher up in early 2010s and looked better.

Defensive wingman is probably his go. I think the ship has sailed on him but yeah if we have injuries this year get him back there.

 

[DuckYeah]

Tackles per game (2019)

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2 tackles a game for a half back is acceptable is it?

 

[Snake_Baker]

2 tackles a game for a half back is acceptable is it?

LOL.

 

[DuckYeah]

LOL.

Hang on, you have defended Jmac relentlessly on this page and now you’ve had a change of heart? I dont think im missing the point

 

[disco_cowboy]

i actually don't mind Jmac - i thought the second half of last year he was playing really well.
He's clearly not a star but I still think he has a place in the team.

 

[Mav]

2 tackles a game for a half back is acceptable is it?

The 2 2019 AA halfbacks averaged 1.4 and 2.7 so yep 2.2 is acceptable.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

i actually don't mind Jmac - i thought the second half of last year he was playing really well.
He's clearly not a star but I still think he has a place in the team.

He’s ok. Can you see him in a 17 win team though?

 

[DuckYeah]

The 2 2019 AA halfbacks averaged 1.4 and 2.7 so yep 2.2 is acceptable.

The AA half back hit targets lace out and kicked goals.. so unless youre an attacking half back which is what most AA half backs are or an intercept marking beast then you best be laying more tackles per game.. he’s *in s**t
Both Grimes and Tom Stewart are intercept marking beasts.. macmillan runs under the ball and points fingers

 

[Snake_Baker]

Hang on, you have defended Jmac relentlessly on this page and now you’ve had a change of heart?

No I haven't. I have attempted to bring balance to a discussion that regularly meanders down a path towards absurdity.

Most of the critiques put forward are garbage.

I dont think im missing the point

Yeah, you are mate.

The point of that list is to highlight all the defenders who average less tackles than Jamie, but somehow never attract a mention about their tackling or physical application.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

The AA half back hit targets lace out and kicked goals.. so unless youre an attacking half back which is what most AA half backs are or an intercept marking beast then you best be laying more tackles per game.. he’s fu**in s**t

AFL stats aren’t that useful. Those tackles could be pile ons. It’s the open field and difficult tackles where Macmillan is no good. As far as I know there’s no stat that measures these type of tackles.

 

[Mav]

The AA half back hit targets lace out and kicked goals.. so unless youre an attacking half back which is what most AA half backs are or an intercept marking beast then you best be laying more tackles per game.. he’s fu**in s**t
Both Grimes and Tom Stewart are intercept marking beasts.. macmillan runs under the ball and points fingers

DE: JMac v BH,
79.5 to 80.2

you see what you want to see.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

DE: JMac v BH,
79.5 to 80.2

you see what you want to see.

Those stats don’t account for kick difficulty. Houli tried to pick the eyes out if a press a lot.

It was like when Rawlings had a high efficiency because he was always looking to give off sideways.

 

[Mav]

The AA half back hit targets lace out and kicked goals.. so unless youre an attacking half back which is what most AA half backs are or an intercept marking beast then you best be laying more tackles per game.. he’s fu**in s**t
Both Grimes and Tom Stewart are intercept marking beasts.. macmillan runs under the ball and points fingers

And Hurn averaged 1 more intercept per game.

you see what you want to see

 

[Snake_Baker]

No one is claiming that Jamie is Guy McKenna, but how about being fair? Don't we owe that to all North players?

So much of the criticism is just a display of an ignorant pile on mentality.

 

[New_Roo]

Tackles per game (2019)

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Polec is above him?.... not sure I’ve seen Polec land a tackle... but don’t expect this to be his strength


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[Snake_Baker]

Polec is above him?.... not sure I’ve seen Polec land a tackle... but don’t expect this to be his strength

Polec is also in the midfield.

 

[New_Roo]

Polec is also in the midfield.

That’s my point... how can a man in the midfield who isn’t reknown for tackling average more tackles than jmac.... hence not sure about such stats


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[Snake_Baker]

That’s my point... how can a man in the midfield who isn’t reknown for tackling average more tackles than jmac.... hence not sure about such stats

Your "point" misses "the" point.

Who do you think has more play involvements during a match of AFL football, a midfielder or a defender?

 

[New_Roo]

Your "point" misses "the" point.

Who do you think has more play involvements during a match of AFL football, a midfielder or a defender?

A midfielder but not a winger.....


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[disco_cowboy]

is the issue that he doesn't make the kicks that count when rebounding off half bacK? I would say that is where i got most frustrated with him.
But in saying that Atley isn't any better, and Shaw has asked Pittard to focus on defence before rebounding for (assumingly) the same reason.
We miss a an elite ball user coming out of defence, Scooter used to be pretty good at it.
Not sure if strictly JMacs fault cause I reckon his value comes in pressure acts more than anything.

 

[New_Roo]

is the issue that he doesn't make the kicks that count when rebounding off half bacK? I would say that is where i got most frustrated with him.
But in saying that Atley isn't any better, and Shaw has asked Pittard to focus on defence before rebounding for (assumingly) the same reason.
We miss a an elite ball user coming out of defence, Scooter used to be pretty good at it.
Not sure if strictly JMacs fault cause I reckon his value comes in pressure acts more than anything.

Correct both Zac Williams and Saad out of contract this year.... we still have that treasure chest or has covid taken that with it


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[Scallop Industry Thug]

Thompson’s skills were elite. They’re trying Ahern there. Macmillan isn’t a great kick, isn’t a great defender. He’s depth and won’t be in the team if we’re really good.

 

[New_Roo]

Thompson’s skills were elite. They’re trying Ahern there. Macmillan isn’t a great kick, isn’t a great defender. He’s depth and won’t be in the team if we’re really good.

Agree happy with him as depth


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[disco_cowboy]

Correct both Zac Williams and Saad out of contract this year.... we still have that treasure chest or has covid taken that with it


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I'm not sure that I rate Saad's kicking, but that might be because I feel like I mostly feel like I just see him running.