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News Brad Crouch to Saints (STK make offer; Band 3, ADL to match?)
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Information that comes out is often self serving. I'm thankful for the inside info and trust most of those delivering it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need to be filtered.
FR0GGY
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Only our club could have turned a relatively simple situation into a charade.
TexForPM
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Us matching late will also pressure the AFL into a corner too?
Leaves Saints no time to deal and Brad has to accept our offer?
How many other times have Clubs drawn out this process?
Leaves Saints no time to deal and Brad has to accept our offer?
How many other times have Clubs drawn out this process?
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So draft sanctions incoming then if that played out?
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Yeah, the only reason to not match is if the 2 clubs are talking and they feel the compo pick has enough worth be part of trades.
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I don't see how this can happen, we either take the compo pick or we don't.
The only way we can get better is by matching which makes the compo pick null and void
Matching is the only way we can get players/sweeteners legally....and then we if the Saints walk away we're committed to the same deal Brad's management have secured at the Saints
I think we really don't want him at the club, know that we'll be out of the 8 for most of his contract and there is little point continuing with him at this stage only to have to replace him as we enter our next window.
We should be looking to build a group with potential to go through a successful 5 year era together and Brad's unlikely to be a part of much of that, yes we'll need older players during this time and not everyone can be under 24 when we get there, but we probably shouldn't be investing heavily in players that wont.
We poorly played the game for pick 2, it didn't happen, and the AFL could have made it happen if they wanted to, covid-19/unknown list sizes/cap discount or whatever.
Saints have what is it pick 15? Compensation pick is 23? I'm not sure you commit to a player you don't want, for 5 years at $750,000-$800,000, if the reports about easy triggers are true, for a player to only play a maximum of 22 games per year (finals unlikely, I think 23 if we are lucky in a couple of years time) and going on past history, only 3/4 of that anyway because of pride and an 8 pick slide.
Over the next couple of years we are going to collect some top tier young talent and will need a stack of money to keep other clubs away.
But I'm also not sure how the club can sell the loss to supporters so we'll see what choice they make here.
We should be looking to build a group with potential to go through a successful 5 year era together and Brad's unlikely to be a part of much of that, yes we'll need older players during this time and not everyone can be under 24 when we get there, but we probably shouldn't be investing heavily in players that wont.
We poorly played the game for pick 2, it didn't happen, and the AFL could have made it happen if they wanted to, covid-19/unknown list sizes/cap discount or whatever.
Saints have what is it pick 15? Compensation pick is 23? I'm not sure you commit to a player you don't want, for 5 years at $750,000-$800,000, if the reports about easy triggers are true, for a player to only play a maximum of 22 games per year (finals unlikely, I think 23 if we are lucky in a couple of years time) and going on past history, only 3/4 of that anyway because of pride and an 8 pick slide.
Over the next couple of years we are going to collect some top tier young talent and will need a stack of money to keep other clubs away.
But I'm also not sure how the club can sell the loss to supporters so we'll see what choice they make here.
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Can we play poker together please.
No it isn’t, the club only has to deal with his manager and the Saints, Brad was on a holiday while the Saints lodged their offer to the AFL. It just makes it clear that the club don’t want him back regardless, otherwise they would’ve gone to the effort of keeping in contact. They owe Brad nothing now.
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AFL trade wrap: Brad Crouch asks Crows to take low compo; bold plot to land ‘generational’ gun
Trade wrap: Crouch asks Crows to take low compo; bold plot to land ‘generational’ gun
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Well then Brad, go and speak to your St.Kilda friends and tell them to put a decent trade deal on the table coz the Crows are going to match the FA offer and they won't be wilting on the trade deal either.
Media fix has started on AA.
Rowe is sticking with have to match, but saying the fans want him gone and happy with 23
Rowe is sticking with have to match, but saying the fans want him gone and happy with 23
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sorry to reply to yours in particular, but that is where tomorrow comes into play - they could do a trade first, for an example (just for the purposes of demonstration), St Kilda trade 2021 1st for the Atkins compo and crows 2021 2nd. The crows declare they are not matching and Brad goes to the saints who get 2 x 2nd rounders for their 2021 1st and we get the band 3 compo pick and a 2021 1st.
For the love of god, if we can't manufacture such a scenario or similar then what the hell are our trade team being employed for
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Did you honestly expect anything less?
When we eventually roll over, we'll once again be the laughing stock of the footy world.
This has now become a matter of principle.
Bend over and we're done as a club. No one will respect us.
Match and get their first this year or next year. Put the pressure back on St Kilda the low balling pricks.
They play ball or see you in the PSD and play SANFL.
Bend over and we're done as a club. No one will respect us.
Match and get their first this year or next year. Put the pressure back on St Kilda the low balling pricks.
They play ball or see you in the PSD and play SANFL.
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Correct.
We get the compensation pick, maybe get a Saints player for a backend pick, then maybe another backend pick upgrades our Pick 22 to 17 or something.
AFL would be fine with it, to get the player to their destination.
I they can sign off on GC coughing up Pick 11 for Pick 27 rom Geelong then anything is possible, really, so nothing will surprise me tomorrow.
They wont have to organise a trade if they got him as a free agent either.
So if they were willing to pay him more money, they would have offered in for free agency.
No trade. No drafting.
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Nope, that’s why I said only our club could do this.
Rendell saying 4@600 with massive triggers hence no band 1.
Not matching at 600 is disgraceful
Not matching at 600 is disgraceful
It makes more sense that we are doing that than we just haven’t done anything for 48 hours because we can’t decide.
The club treats Rowie with the same respect this board does, none. Just yesterday he was saying is ‘definitely happy to stay if it comes to that’.
If the Saints put forward a contract big enough to get band one compo, but it didn’t because it’s not all guaranteed, then both clubs are incredibly incompetent.
all 3 parties could have won if it was played better.
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