List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[blackshadow]

If the shoe was on the other foot, it would suck arse. Having to trade with the wooden spooner would be the worst. However, you would want to cut your losses and get whatever you could, playing hardball is likely going to result in him going into the PSD and them having to take Tarrant as a free agent which will likely push back their Chol compo to a third rounder.

The salty Richmond tears will be delicious if it plays out that way.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

Pick 20...

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

The salty Richmond tears will be delicious if it plays out that way.

I haven't seen such a collective club-fan-media-sycophant sook this large for quite some time.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Could attempt a trade for a contracted one.

Outside of Daniel Talia there isn’t really any FA’s that fit the bill either. I’d think he is too similar to McKay in that they are both lockdown types.

The following contracted key defenders have probably fallen down the pecking order at their clubs:

Tom Clurey
Joel Hamling
Caleb Marchbank
Lewis Melican
Fisher McAsey

 

[The Anvil]

Did he say we were looking for a 28 year old type?

Essentially said that we don't need to go after a 28 yo type, as we have McKay, Corr, and Walker and will look to extend via the draft.

Worth having a listen to, was on Trade Radio on the weekend.

Also suggested that Dumont strung out his situation leaving the club to move on with other alternatives. So he doesn't have a contract offer right now, I guess likely did have one and it was removed similar to BBB.

 

[Tas]

Essentially said that we don't need to go after a 28 yo type, as we have McKay, Corr, and Walker and will look to extend via the draft.

Worth having a listen to, was on Trade Radio on the weekend.

Also suggested that Dumont strung out his situation leaving the club to move on with other alternatives. So he doesn't have a contract offer right now, I guess likely did have one and it was removed similar to BBB.

I'm not listening to Trade radio, but thanks for providing the info.

 

[giantroo]

1:30PM — ROADBLOCKS IN NORTH DEALS FOR SUN AND TIGER CUB

Tom Morris reports...

North Melbourne’s initial offer for Darcy Macpherson is unlikely to be enough to pry him out of Gold Coast.

The Kangaroos are interested in the 23-year-old and have put forward a two-year deal, but Macpherson, who is contracted for 2022 at the Suns, has told the club he’d prefer to stay.

The lure of an extra season is not enough by itself to convince Macpherson to change his mind, nor is the financial component of North’s proposal.

Sources believe MacPherson is still a strong chance to stay unless the Roos re-evaluate how much they are willing to pay.

Gold Coast would send Pick 19 and Macpherson to Arden Street and get some late draft selections back in return.

Armed with Pick 19 and Pick 20, Richmond hope one of those selections would then go to Punt Road for Callum Coleman-Jones.

The Tigers and Roos remain a long way apart in their negotiations for the key forward, with sources confirming Richmond are agitated at North’s tactics of luring a player on a long-term deal on good money but refusing to part with Pick 20.

AFL trades live: Mega Pies-Suns pick swap first deal DONE; Cats’ top-10 request denied

Trade wrap: Mega Pies-Suns pick swap first deal DONE; Cats’ top-10 request denied

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[TigerPaul71]

The salty Richmond tears will be delicious if it plays out that way.

I Don't see it that way.
We want to keep him
If he CCJ gone for Kebabs he would be a premiership player
Good young ruckmens are very hard to find and what he showed this year was he is defiantly coming as an AFL player
His choice to leave, good luck to him!!
You offer 450 over 5 years long contract on good money
we offer 350 over 3years then he would go to 650-700 as we don't over pay until they earn it(Shia Bolton eg)
I know im waffling and you can call me what you want
He is not worth pick 38 thats a JOKE!!
I'm not here to insult you guys but that is a joke.
If he goes through preseason.
Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

 

[Shagga is all Class]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

Umm..."the tigers early threat will be" and "Richmond will want a selection" is a dead giveaway this is just speculative and not actual journalism from someone with a source that has spoken to the club. Is the author Nostradamus?

 

[The Brady Bunch]

Have we made a trade yet?
Surely trade period should only be over 4-5 days!!


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Harsh. There are certain clubs that never win finals. The only chance they have of stringing together a few weeks of positive media in the Spring is by extending trade week to a month.

 

[Firebat]

Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

Karma? Haha. If you rate him so highly why isn't Richmond matching his salary demands?

 

[The Brady Bunch]

I Don't see it that way.
We want to keep him
If he CCJ gone for Kebabs he would be a premiership player
Good young ruckmens are very hard to find and what he showed this year was he is defiantly coming as an AFL player
His choice to leave, good luck to him!!
You offer 450 over 5 years long contract on good money
we offer 350 over 3years then he would go to 650-700 as we don't over pay until they earn it(Shia Bolton eg)
I know im waffling and you can call me what you want
He is not worth pick 38 thats a JOKE!!
I'm not here to insult you guys but that is a joke.
If he goes through preseason.
Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

Richmond threatening to enter into trade wars because that worked out so well for you at the end of your previous period of success.

Karma? Haha. If you rate him so highly why isn't Richmond matching his salary demands?

AKA if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it.

 

[TigerPaul71]

Karma? Haha. If you rate him so highly why isn't Richmond matching his salary demands?

read the post

 

[Heaps of fun]

I Don't see it that way.
We want to keep him
If he CCJ gone for Kebabs he would be a premiership player
Good young ruckmens are very hard to find and what he showed this year was he is defiantly coming as an AFL player
His choice to leave, good luck to him!!
You offer 450 over 5 years long contract on good money
we offer 350 over 3years then he would go to 650-700 as we don't over pay until they earn it(Shia Bolton eg)
I know im waffling and you can call me what you want
He is not worth pick 38 thats a JOKE!!
I'm not here to insult you guys but that is a joke.
If he goes through preseason.
Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

No one cares what you think, mate.

 

[Flawed Genius]

I Don't see it that way.
We want to keep him
If he CCJ gone for Kebabs he would be a premiership player
Good young ruckmens are very hard to find and what he showed this year was he is defiantly coming as an AFL player
His choice to leave, good luck to him!!
You offer 450 over 5 years long contract on good money
we offer 350 over 3years then he would go to 650-700 as we don't over pay until they earn it(Shia Bolton eg)
I know im waffling and you can call me what you want
He is not worth pick 38 thats a JOKE!!
I'm not here to insult you guys but that is a joke.
If he goes through preseason.
Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

Paul. You had him on the list for four years and gave him nine games. As with all these things the true value lies somewhere in the middle, but you hold absolutely zero bargaining power with regards to CCJ

 

[TigerPaul71]

Richmond threatening to enter into trade wars because that worked out so well for you at the end of your previous period of success.




AKA if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it.

what you can't take constructive conversation. Put the shoe on the other foot

 

[Firebat]

read the post

I did. Quite simply in a free agency market, you are worth what others are willing to pay.

After coming out of two covid impacted years, you can't blame someone to wanting to maximise their earning potential when careers can end in a flash.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

I haven't seen such a collective club-fan-media-sycophant sook this large for quite some time.

Must be good then

 

[The Dingrel]

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That's funny. "North Melbourne need to find a way"....oh I'm sure there's a way....

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yeah it’s called the pre season draft. Pick 40 or FO

 

[Le Grille]

I Don't see it that way.
We want to keep him
If he CCJ gone for Kebabs he would be a premiership player
Good young ruckmens are very hard to find and what he showed this year was he is defiantly coming as an AFL player
His choice to leave, good luck to him!!
You offer 450 over 5 years long contract on good money
we offer 350 over 3years then he would go to 650-700 as we don't over pay until they earn it(Shia Bolton eg)
I know im waffling and you can call me what you want
He is not worth pick 38 thats a JOKE!!
I'm not here to insult you guys but that is a joke.
If he goes through preseason.
Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

First off 38 isn’t just it, Tarrant (preserve Chol compo) potential pick swaps too.

were you ok with the Nank trade. Pretty similar situation.

Flip the roles would you give up 20 if you didn’t need to?

it looks like nank, lynch, soldo and Riewoldt aren’t going anywhere in the immediate future. The kid wants to play. Is he supposed to put his career on hold because he stuffed up by getting a kebab.

 

[Del191229]

I haven't seen such a collective club-fan-media-sycophant sook this large for quite some time.

Not since Gladys resigned.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

I Don't see it that way.
We want to keep him
If he CCJ gone for Kebabs he would be a premiership player
Good young ruckmens are very hard to find and what he showed this year was he is defiantly coming as an AFL player
His choice to leave, good luck to him!!
You offer 450 over 5 years long contract on good money
we offer 350 over 3years then he would go to 650-700 as we don't over pay until they earn it(Shia Bolton eg)
I know im waffling and you can call me what you want
He is not worth pick 38 thats a JOKE!!
I'm not here to insult you guys but that is a joke.
If he goes through preseason.
Look out when your young come out of contract.
Karma

Sorry where did you get 450 over 5 years from? We've offered 350 over 4 years which means we are massive and you are tinpot.

 

[sruss]

Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.

The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.

The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.

That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.

The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.

Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.


Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.

Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.


The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.

Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.

Lol how can they “threaten to retain him” when he is out of contact and has refused to re-sign with them

 

[TigerPaul71]

Paul. You had him on the list for four years and gave him nine games. As with all these things the true value lies somewhere in the middle, but you hold absolutely zero bargaining power with regards to CCJ

agree we are in the shit. we have no bargain at all. Its just Bullshit
As for not playing look at all young players the last 2 years not many games to any off them. No vfl. Hard on all young guys
Gee I didn't think i would get this much conversation, WOW!!
By the way I think you have a great up and coming team so good luck to you!!

 

[Shinboner1]

1:30PM — ROADBLOCKS IN NORTH DEALS FOR SUN AND TIGER CUB

Tom Morris reports...

North Melbourne’s initial offer for Darcy Macpherson is unlikely to be enough to pry him out of Gold Coast.

The Kangaroos are interested in the 23-year-old and have put forward a two-year deal, but Macpherson, who is contracted for 2022 at the Suns, has told the club he’d prefer to stay.

The lure of an extra season is not enough by itself to convince Macpherson to change his mind, nor is the financial component of North’s proposal.

Sources believe MacPherson is still a strong chance to stay unless the Roos re-evaluate how much they are willing to pay.

Gold Coast would send Pick 19 and Macpherson to Arden Street and get some late draft selections back in return.

Armed with Pick 19 and Pick 20, Richmond hope one of those selections would then go to Punt Road for Callum Coleman-Jones.

The Tigers and Roos remain a long way apart in their negotiations for the key forward, with sources confirming Richmond are agitated at North’s tactics of luring a player on a long-term deal on good money but refusing to part with Pick 20.

AFL trades live: Mega Pies-Suns pick swap first deal DONE; Cats’ top-10 request denied

Trade wrap: Mega Pies-Suns pick swap first deal DONE; Cats’ top-10 request denied

www.foxsports.com.au

Sounds like things are getting pretty hairy.