Player Watch 2021 AFL National Draft - NOT FOR TRADE DISCUSSION

[Strapping Young Lad]

Let’s stick with a basic rule for this thread, that it’s for draft watch and discussion only.

It’s not for trade hypotheticals, who you think needs to be delisted or traded, how many games you think we will win, some other team will win, how many picks you want in the 1st round or discussion of current HFC players.

It’s about youngsters who are eligible for the draft in 2021.


Key dates to look out for:

• NAB AFL Draft Combine: TBC
• NAB AFL Draft: Wednesday November 24 - Thursday November 25
• NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie Drafts: Friday November 26

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Gibcus? FML.

I'm all in for trading for pick 2 then. We need Callaghan.

We’re going to find it hard to take Andrew, Ward, Gibcus and Erasmus…. All 4 have had people on here say that we’re taking them.

which probably means we’re taking Hobbs.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

No to Gibcus please. Not because he isn't a talented player, but we have DGB coming through and it's not a position of desperate need, unlike the midfield. Also he plays a similar style to DGB.

 

[Blackhawk42]

We’re going to find it hard to take Andrew, Ward, Gibcus and Erasmus…. All 4 have had people on here say that we’re taking them.

which probably means we’re taking Hobbs.

Hobbs isn't my first choice, but I'll be doing cartwheels on draft night if we read out his name while Gibcus is still in play.

Anything that will add to our midfield will be cause for celebration.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Erasmus posted the quickest 2km trial for WA . Ran it on his own and posted on strata.

Did he strap his device to his dog?

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

We’re going to find it hard to take Andrew, Ward, Gibcus and Erasmus…. All 4 have had people on here say that we’re taking them.

which probably means we’re taking Hobbs.

Gil: "Pick 7, Hawthorn".

MM: "Pass".

 

[Brishawk]

We’re going to find it hard to take Andrew, Ward, Gibcus and Erasmus…. All 4 have had people on here say that we’re taking them.

which probably means we’re taking Hobbs.

Probably trolling gws for not trading us pick 2

 

[Blackhawk42]

Ned Long Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

Would consider at pick 24.

 

[CHUBBSS]

We’re going to find it hard to take Andrew, Ward, Gibcus and Erasmus…. All 4 have had people on here say that we’re taking them.

which probably means we’re taking Hobbs.

I always wonder how much insider club news is created at draft time to spook other clubs into making an alternative decision. (Still can’t believe we got buddy)

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I always wonder how much insider club news is created at draft time to spook other clubs into making an alternative decision. (Still can’t believe we got buddy)

90% at a guess.

 

[CHUBBSS]

90% at a guess.

And on the other side if we are taking gibcus it means we seriously value some
Mids in the later side of the first round, and that wouldn’t suprise me because of the issues in junior development

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Read the thread title guys. There’s no trade talk in here.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Ned Long Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

Would consider at pick 24.

This is the guy that Smythe says the Hawks like in his Phantom draft.

24 seems a bit early.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Leaking of our interest in Mac and gibcus may just be the start of psychological war on our end to see who blinks first out of GWS , crows and GC. The GC pick 3 may be attainable if GWS don't budge. Crows I believe won't easily budge though, they do have Rachelle in their sights but I'm not sure how desperate they are . Whoever we pick up will be exciting imo , as I and other posters have mentioned countless times before, this is a strong Draft to have picks within the first two rounds.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[chopflop]

Recent quote from Rob McCartney - on the Hawks website.

“But I think always in that first and earliest pick is that its best player available more than likely. We think we’ll pick up a pretty good player at that Pick 5.

“With Picks 21 and 24 that’s probably then coming down to what we would like to add to our midfield and forward group.”

 

[chopflop]

Pick 5 ... BPA Gibcus or Andrew for the lols.

Pick 21... Howes, Motlop, Butler, Clarke etc

Pick 24... MacDonald, knevitt, sheldrick

......

Pick 5 BPA
Pick 21 forward leaning players.
Pick 24 midfield beasts (if we go tall at pick 5)

 

[hfc70]

If Macca selects Gibcus, Andrew, MJ or NWM……fine by me.

Wonder if our recruiting team change their minds daily like I do ?

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Unpopular opinion but im really warming to the 2 night format for the draft.

Im looking forward to the discussion after night 1 when we will have a great idea who is available for our 2nd round picks. Plus there is nothing else going on, why not spread it out over 2 nights!

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[Alite]

The idea that a champion team is better than a team of champions is well known. The salary cap amplifies this concept.

A team of champions will want to be paid like champions (see GWS) leaving precious few scraps for the last six players selected. To keep the quotes coming, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Many have said that premierships are won by the quality of the last 6 players selected … and monkeys will not win it.

Why write this? Because I hope we do not draft based on finding a game-changer with individual brilliance. I want to see us take a player that brings his teammates into the game, runs hard to set up the extra man resulting in a regulation shot on goal. Equally a player who runs to consume space or cover someone else’s opponent in defence. No brilliance, just cohesion and a win. Clearly a player needs to be highly proficient at one part of the game and capable at most other parts. Sam Mitchell has stated that he wants to draft based on an outstanding attribute instead of being a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. It is when those outstanding attributes fit together to form one cohesive unit that the juggernaut is formed.

At pick 5(7), this board is split between Ward, Hobbs, Johnson, Rochelle, Sinn, Erasmus and a little bit of Mac (assuming Callaghan is gone).

We each have our favourites based on footy vision…

But I hope the Hawk’s psychologist gets the last say based on the draftee’s interviews with loyalty, self-sacrifice, effort, and teachability / game-plan orientation as strong parts of their personality.

Newcombe and Day reek of these traits. I hope whomever we select will be no less (champion) team orientated.

 

[KermitJagger]

I prefer Sinn's video, for what that's worth.

Injury to Sinn is one of the major reasons Callaghan actually had so much opportunity to lift his stocks.

 

[Burtman]

The idea that a champion team is better than a team of champions is well known. The salary cap amplifies this concept.

A team of champions will want to be paid like champions (see GWS) leaving precious few scraps for the last six players selected. To keep the quotes coming, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Many have said that premierships are won by the quality of the last 6 players selected … and monkeys will not win it.

Why write this? Because I hope we do not draft based on finding a game-changer with individual brilliance. I want to see us take a player that brings his teammates into the game, runs hard to set up the extra man resulting in a regulation shot on goal. Equally a player who runs to consume space or cover someone else’s opponent in defence. No brilliance, just cohesion and a win. Clearly a player needs to be highly proficient at one part of the game and capable at most other parts. Sam Mitchell has stated that he wants to draft based on an outstanding attribute instead of being a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. It is when those outstanding attributes fit together to form one cohesive unit that the juggernaut is formed.

At pick 5(7), this board is split between Ward, Hobbs, Johnson, Rochelle, Sinn, Erasmus and a little bit of Mac (assuming Callaghan is gone).

We each have our favourites based on footy vision…

But I hope the Hawk’s psychologist gets the last say based on the draftee’s interviews with loyalty, self-sacrifice, effort, and teachability / game-plan orientation as strong parts of their personality.

Newcombe and Day reek of these traits. I hope whomever we select will be no less (champion) team orientated.

We have these good, honest hardworking players in abundance, they are the base of a good team, but we are sorely lacking match winners. That’s what wins premierships. Look at Petracca, oliver, gawn and even fritsch. You need these players to elevate the team to premiership contenders. You can have a team focused style but you also need players who are capable of brilliance and can change the tide of a game

 

[Bugs1977]

From what I can gather we won't be trading up for Andrew it will only be if he is available at our pick.

Do you think GWS will take him with #2?

This is why I think the AFL needs to move towards being able to allowing kids to be on traded on throughout the draft. For example GWS pick Callaghan with pick 2 and then have a deal set up with us or another club that selects Andrew. Once Andrew is selected it is then announced that he has been traded to GWS and Callaghan to us or another club. This way GWS get the player they want and another asset or 2 for their trouble of trading down. Having it this way would assure they don’t miss out on their target.

 

[chopflop]

Erasmus posted the quickest 2km trial for WA . Ran it on his own and posted on strava.

What was the time? Best before him was 6:30ish

 

[Bugs1977]

Don’t shoot the messenger, BUT theres a strong chance we take Gibcus if he’s available at 5(7)…..
Not what most people would do ,but it’s strongly being talked about at the club.

This IMO sounds like info being released to muddy the waters. Just makes other clubs have no idea who we really want.

 

[daniel23]

What was the time? Best before him was 6:30ish

6:14