Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 6

[Del203211]

Are you vouching for the veracity of this document ?

Na just wanted to know about vaccine expiry.

 

[sherb]

Got a stat for how many of those 91% would still be alive if it weren't for covid?

 

[Evolved1]

It is yeah but DA now saying that’s not the case. Merlino says it is, DA says hasn’t been confirmed yet.

Seems it's 16+ now. Last time I checked it was 18.

"All individuals aged 16 years and over are recommended to receive a COVID-19 vaccine booster dose to maintain an “up-to-date” status. This booster dose is now recommended from 3 months after the last primary dose. This is called the ‘due date’."

ATAGI statement on defining 'up-to-date' status for COVID-19 vaccination

This guidance summarises 'up-to-date' vaccination status, as defined by the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) in their clinical guidance for the use of COVID-19 vaccines.

www.health.gov.au

 

[Del203211]

Got a stat for how many of those 91% would still be alive if it weren't for covid?

How longs a piece of string?

 

[Kwality]

Na just wanted to know about vaccine expiry.

Got a link ?

 

[Del203211]

Got a link ?

For what?

 

[sherb]

How longs a piece of string?

A piece of string is as long as it actually is.

Got an answer to my question though?

 

[Kwality]

For what?

The doc posted, where did it come from?

 

[Del203211]

A piece of string is as long as it actually is.

Got an answer to my question though?

Why would I have an answer?
I posted the stats. You can make of it what you like.

I’ve already said it doesn’t change anything past or present. They are stats. If you feel they are meaningless then bring it up with the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

 

[Evolved1]

Are you vouching for the veracity of this document ?

"On December 16, 2021, FDA reissued the EUA (PDF, 493 KB) for the authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, including an update on expiration dating. FDA is extending the expiration date of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine that uses the Tris buffer (vials with gray caps and labels with gray borders) from 6 months to 9 months when held at -90 °C to -60 °C"

Expiration Dating Extension

When appropriate, FDA is engaged in various expiration dating extension activities

www.fda.gov

 

[HirdyLannister]

Got a stat for how many of those 91% would still be alive if it weren't for covid?

Does it matter?
Peak selfishness is expecting the whole world to stop for the few.

We're in a pandemic, believing that every death is preventable is a fallacy.

 

[sherb]

Does it matter?
Peak selfishness is expecting the whole world to stop for the few.

We're in a pandemic, believing that every death is preventable is a fallacy.

Of course it does.

I've seen this so often. People trying to downplay the effect of the virus (as in the post I quoted) by saying "but, they had pre-existing conditions".

Well, that may be the case, however the point is that if it weren't for the virus they'd probably still be alive.

 

[sherb]

Why would I have an answer?
I posted the stats. You can make of it what you like.

I’ve already said it doesn’t change anything past or present. They are stats. If you feel they are meaningless then bring it up with the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

You seemed big on stats, that's all.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Does it matter?
Peak selfishness is expecting the whole world to stop for the few.

We're in a pandemic, believing that every death is preventable is a fallacy.

Goodonyer, Killer

 

[Evolved1]

Of course it does.

I've seen this so often. People trying to downplay the effect of the virus (as in the post I quoted) by saying "but, they had pre-existing conditions".

Well, that may be the case, however the point is that if it weren't for the virus they'd probably still be alive.

Do you have stats for that claim?

 

[Del203211]

You seemed big on stats, that's all.

You’re asking that question as you’re clearly offended or unhappy by the stats from the Australian Bureau of Statistics. Take it up with them if you’re so upset.

 

[Del203211]

Do you have stats for that claim?

Haha.. not a chance they will.

I’m sure the Australian Bureau of Statistics are now considered RWNJs for releasing them.

 

[sherb]

Do you have stats for that claim?

Of course. 98 percent.

 

[Evolved1]

Haha.. not a chance they will.

I’m sure the Australian Bureau of Statistics are now considered RWNJs for releasing them.

Must have been bought out by Murdoch or Costello.

 

[sherb]

Haha.. not a chance they will.

I’m sure the Australian Bureau of Statistics are now considered RWNJs for releasing them.

Nothing wrong with the stat, it's the motivation of posting them which I am challenging.

Ie - Let's devalue the effect of the virus by using the "pre-existing conditions" qualifier.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Jeff has 20 IQ points on Dan. That's the main difference. Both of them are egomaniacs.

I’m not sure he does mate.

Some of his actions as President of the HFC are not those of an intelligent human being.

 

[Del203211]

Nothing wrong with the stat, it's the motivation of posting them which I am challenging.

Ie - Let's devalue the effect of the virus by using the "pre-existing conditions" qualifier.

Hence I said “doesn’t change anything past or present, they are just stats”.

If they were completely meaningless, they probably wouldn’t have seen the light of day.

 

[Evolved1]

Nothing wrong with the stat, it's the motivation of posting them which I am challenging.

Ie - Let's devalue the effect of the virus by using the "pre-existing conditions" qualifier.

You're making assumptions about the motivation of that poster because you find the data inconvenient.

Surely it should be a kick up the bum for the many Aussies that maintain unhealthy lifestyles. Go to gym, eat healthy, and manage your own risk.

 

[sherb]

Hence I said “doesn’t change anything past or present, they are just stats”.

If they were completely meaningless, they probably wouldn’t have seen the light of day.

Yes, and you just posted it because you love stats. Gotcha.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Of course it does.

I've seen this so often. People trying to downplay the effect of the virus (as in the post I quoted) by saying "but, they had pre-existing conditions".

Well, that may be the case, however the point is that if it weren't for the virus they'd probably still be alive.

No it doesn't.

No one is trying to downplay it, we're in a pandemic.
Sacrificing the lives of 99.98% of the population for the elderly or pre existing conditions isn't feasible.
Unfortunately they got handed a shitty hand, I just hope their death was swift and surrounded by loved ones.