Review Good/Bad vs Melbourne, R16 2022

Who played well against Melbourne

  • Sam Berry

  • Jordon Butts

  • Jordan Dawson

  • Tom Doedee

  • Darcy Fogarty

  • Jackson Hately

  • Mitch Hinge

  • Chayce Jones

  • Ben Keays

  • Rory Laird

  • Wayne Milera

  • Lachlan Murphy

  • Nick Murray

  • Reilly O'Brien

  • Patrick Parnell

  • Josh Rachele

  • James Rowe

  • Harry Schoenberg

  • Jake Soligo

  • Brodie Smith

  • Taylor Walker

  • Riley Thilthorpe


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We spent most of the game predictably bombing it into the waiting arms of Lever or May.

Only really changed it up by kicking out on the full.

The one time we got through them in the third quarter was when ROB flubbed a pathetic 30m slice that slewed towards CHF. May & Lever were both sitting a kick away and this completely caught them unawares. Smith crumbs, Dawson marks, goal.

That occasion was just lack of skill on show but it would be nice to see us deliberately mix up our length of kick to take the intercept defenders out of the contest.
 
Oh my, you’re as delusional as they are. We actually lost the clearance battle even after winning 80%+ of the hit outs. If you can’t see the systemic issue there then there’s not much point discussing it with you.
It’s called talent

We could have Polly Farmer rucking and I’d still back Petracca and Oliver to get hold of us given they’re both top 5 maybe top 3 mids . Viney in some decent form too

Langdon hurt us more than anyone though

We would have got beaten by much more if Gawn / Jackson were playing

Delusional ? Touché
 

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Dawson was great. Our best for sure. Soligo and Berry pretty good too against pretty much a full strength Melbourne team.
You don't watch Melbourne much do you PCORF? Gawn is the most important player at Melbourne, if he plays we get slaughtered with the ball going straight down their mids throats at CB and stoppages. A bloke called Jackson topped the rating last week for them as well!

Edit: apologies Crow Till I Die, just noticed you replied in a similar way
 
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Late in the third quarter, Laird gains the ball, he is clear no player with 10m, Dawson is leading with his opponent way behind and yet somehow Laird misses Dawson by 15m which should have been a shot on goal directly in front only 30m out.

Our midfield lacks class, but we already know that.
Our midfield lacks class because our recruiters have not addressed it at all. We have ROB and Laird from the rookie list, Keays a delisted FA and Sloane a pick in the 40’s. Melbourne have Luke Jackson, Oliver, Brayshaw and Petracca all taken in the top 5. You can’t waist the amount of top end picks that we have in the last 10 years and expect to have an A grade midfield. We are deadset reaping what we’ve sowed.
 
Still our best and likely to own a Gold Jacket later in the year. Our best player wasn't drafted or developed by us, hmmm

I mean, the best player in the last rebuild to really bounce up and become a consistent top four threat in Brisbane came from another club.

Doesn't matter how you get good players, as long as you have good players.
 
Surely you don't take those particular stats seriously?

In what Universe was Rachele better thaqn Soligo today?
Wasn't, but in regards to either end of our ratings, Dawson top and Murphy/Jones bottom, they got it correct.

I notice Mutineer you gave a vote to Murphy - did you rate his game today?
 
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Wasn't, but in regards to either end of our ratings, Dawson top and Murphy/Jones bottom they got it correct.

I notice you gave a vote to Murphy Mutineer, did you rate his game today?
Maybe look again Rowe was on the negative side of the ledger, at least the other 2 were on the positive side of the ledger.....
 

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We spent most of the game predictably bombing it into the waiting arms of Lever or May.

Only really changed it up by kicking out on the full.

The one time we got through them in the third quarter was when ROB flubbed a pathetic 30m slice that slewed towards CHF. May & Lever were both sitting a kick away and this completely caught them unawares. Smith crumbs, Dawson marks, goal.

That occasion was just lack of skill on show but it would be nice to see us deliberately mix up our length of kick to take the intercept defenders out of the contest.
First two paragraphs are absolutely relevant and why we are we are. Ball use is so poor.
Kicking to advantage of defenders is kicking scared. Why are they scared?
Our small forwards spent their time trying to keep their guys from contest but it’s useless if the delivery is without thought.
Probably wasted at four positions on the field to keep their players away from contest but lost by five. This is more like a ten goal loss.
 
Our value from winning hit outs is non existent. As I posted prior to the game, without an opposing ruckman, we’d dominate hit outs but break even at clearances. And then there’s the quality differential where ours are territory gaining kicks from the pressure area whereas our opponents run out clear of pressure with ball in hand.

But as a fundamental philosophy, we don’t connect ROB’s hitout dominance with the fact we broke even at the stoppage. And we then wilfully ignore the quality component of the raw statistic.

So our coaching group ticks off ROB for hitout dominance, ticks off the mids for breaking even at clearances against the league’s best and then pats themselves on the back for a great midfield coaching event.

But reality is that there remains a massive coaching issue with how we approach the stoppage contest. Melbourne can overcook a handball to the snoz of a teammate and still end up running forward of our pressure because they overlap run within the contest. We have no idea how to generate run from a stoppage and it’s been the same for years.
Come on, Melbourne lost both there ruckman before the game. Do you not think they will try to shark all Robs taps?? If one plays they will look to his work but without either, Petracca and Oliver knew Rob will win most of them
 
Come on, Melbourne lost both there ruckman before the game. Do you not think they will try to shark all Robs taps?? If one plays they will look to his work but without either, Petracca and Oliver knew Rob will win most of them
Goodwin said exactly that in his presser...
 
You don't watch Melbourne much do you PCORF? Gawn is the most important player at Melbourne, if he plays we get slaughtered with the ball going straight down their mids throats at CB and stoppages. A bloke called Jackson topped the rating last week for them as well!

Edit: apologies Crow Till I Die, just noticed you replied in a similar way
So would Gawn had made that a bigger difference since RoB's tap were already being read by their midfielders anyway?
 
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