Oppo Camp Jack Ginnivan (Traded to Hawks 2023)

[sr36]

His biggest strength so far is goal kicking yet we haven’t been short on that front in the last two weeks. If he can go to the VFL and add a midfield string to his bow he could become a really dangerous mid/fwd. There’s non rush to bring him back, let him develop as much as possible and force his way into the side, we’ll have an absolute weapon after that.

That's what I've been seeing at training. They have been using him in the midfield, then going forward.
But you can never have too many goal kickers. One might not realise it, but he's taller than Mitchell and Adams. A couple more pre-seasons he could very well be really dangerous if they make him a forward mid

I'm hoping he's got his endurance up, as I think his long term future is playing a Sidey, Jaicos type role. I'd love him to be able to play high half forward/wing.

 

[Jen2310]

I'm hoping he's got his endurance up, as I think his long term future is playing a Sidey, Jaicos type role. I'd love him to be able to play high half forward/wing.

Never thought of wing. Would think hill more suited to that role given it’s what he has played at gws.


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[sr36]

Never thought of wing. Would think hill more suited to that role given it’s what he has played at gws.


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I just view Ginni as having a very similar skill set to Sidey and Jaicos - with endurance being the only question mark for me.

 

[Jen2310]

I just view Ginni as having a very similar skill set to Sidey and Jaicos - with endurance being the only question mark for me.

Endurance is something you can improve if that’s an area that’s needed. Depends how they see his evolution as a player.


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[cityslick1]

reckon he will get on the end of a few on the weekend... 3 or 4. He can play the Hill or Sidey role, so good for backup as soon as there is an injury. & in the near future, I'd love to think that Hill can handle the WHE role, and Ginni goes straight in up forward and starts kicking bags again. Longer term what Mitchell is doing now I'm sure theyd also love him to be able to do. He was actually listed as an inside mid in juniors...

 

[Vicky Park]

Extraordinary to be in a situation where we’re struggling to find a spot for a young and emerging footballer of the calibre of Ginni.

 

[Jen2310]

reckon he will get on the end of a few on the weekend... 3 or 4. He can play the Hill or Sidey role, so good for backup as soon as there is an injury. & in the near future, I'd love to think that Hill can handle the WHE role, and Ginni goes straight in up forward and starts kicking bags again. Longer term what Mitchell is doing now I'm sure theyd also love him to be able to do. He was actually listed as an inside mid in juniors...

Think his coach before the season got called off in 2020 said he was gonna have him play some midfield time.

 

[Bianconeri]

I'm hoping he's got his endurance up, as I think his long term future is playing a Sidey, Jaicos type role. I'd love him to be able to play high half forward/wing.

I think he has more inside scope then those two with his bigger frame

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Extraordinary to be in a situation where we’re struggling to find a spot for a young and emerging footballer of the calibre of Ginni.

Agree, especially considering he was a 40 goal small forward last year.
It's good to see the club make him earn his spot though, it will be a good learning curve for him in his development as a professional footballer, and not get himself back into a situation he found himself this pre-season....

 

[sr36]

I think he has more inside scope then those two with his bigger frame

Me too. And you can't draw frees like him without elite awareness of body positions and elite timing.

 

[Jen2310]

Agree, especially considering he was a 40 goal small forward last year.
It's good to see the club make him earn his spot though, it will be a good learning curve for him in his development as a professional footballer, and not get himself back into a situation he found himself this pre-season....

Still learning to be a professional footballer, he'll learn and grow better. I'd suggest next pre-season he'll be better. But he's certainly not the first to have been through this as a young man/footballer, and won't be the last. But I think he has learnt from it. Nothing wrong with a little wake up call, that this industry can be brutal.

 

[Jen2310]

Last time Jack played VFL, he dominated Richmond. Look at baby Ginni.

July 2021. Kicked 4.2 from 14 touches

VFL Showreel, R13: Ginnivan registers four once more

Jack Ginnivan notched four goals for a second successive week as his side held on for a narrow victory

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[noideaatall]

Extraordinary to be in a situation where we’re struggling to find a spot for a young and emerging footballer of the calibre of Ginni.

Absolutely. Needed. We have a few bodies to retire over the next few years. The current scenario with Ginni having to work his way back in is perfect. I am sure he will be a quick learner.

 

[Jen2310]

Absolutely. Needed. We have a few bodies to retire over the next few years. The current scenario with Ginni having to work his way back in is perfect. I am sure he will be a quick learner.

He'll be better for it long term as well. He is no stranger to hard work.

 

[Bianconeri]

Me too. And you can't draw frees like him without elite awareness of body positions and elite timing.

Just look at the goal he kicked against Gold Coast last season, I can see him walking through stoppages like that.

 

[Fat Jesus]

I just view Ginni as having a very similar skill set to Sidey and Jaicos - with endurance being the only question mark for me.

He's doing fine where he is. We have to many midfield options that are taller and faster.
I'd rather see Reef or Edward carving up the midfield.
Ginnis role is to kick goals. He's a sharpshooter.
He will never play midfield.

 

[Fat Jesus]

I'm not even a fan of Elliott in the midfield.
So many better options.

 

[jonbe54]

I'm not even a fan of Elliott in the midfield.
So many better options.

Which is a jaw dropping happenstance in just 18 months

 

[Fat Jesus]

Which is a jaw dropping happenstance in just 18 months

Good times brother.
It's like saying let's put Stephen Milne in the midfield.
A good for 40 goal forward out of his comfort zone where he does the most damage.
Ginni is a forward

 

[Abdul_The_Bull]

He's doing fine where he is. We have to many midfield options that are taller and faster.
I'd rather see Reef or Edward carving up the midfield.
Ginnis role is to kick goals. He's a sharpshooter.
He will never play midfield.

I tend to agree, particularly regarding Reef and Ed. Throw Carmichael into that mix and we have a plethora of big-bodied mids to develop. Your in-and-under types, like Mitchell and Adams, will need replacing but I don't see Ginni (or Elliot) fitting that mold.

 

[Bianconeri]

He will never play midfield

He’s spent time training through the midfield

 

[Jen2310]

He’s spent time training through the midfield

Yup, in the last couple weeks.. has lined up at centre bounce. Lets see if he does that in the VFL or whether its forward online.

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[JuniorB]

Yup, in the last couple weeks.. has lined up at centre bounce. Lets see if he does that in the VFL or whether its forward online.

Last season Ginni could be found in the midfield & down back at times.
He has an innate sense of what to do, so he's by no means a one trick pony.

 

[Jen2310]

Last season Ginni could be found in the midfield & down back at times.
He has an innate sense of what to do, so he's by no means a one trick pony.

definitely is not a one trick pony. Has multiple tricks

 

[sr36]

I'm not even a fan of Elliott in the midfield.
So many better options.

I wouldn't play Elliott through the midfield either. Fantastic forward, ordinary mid.