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Autopsy AFL 2023 First Preliminary Final - Pies v GWS Fri Sept 22nd 7:50pm EST (MCG)

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Who will win and by how much?

  • Pies by a goal or less

    Votes: 11 5.0%
  • GWS by a goal or less

    Votes: 15 6.8%
  • Pies by 7 - 20

    Votes: 63 28.5%
  • GWS by 7 - 20

    Votes: 82 37.1%
  • Pies by a lot

    Votes: 36 16.3%
  • GWS by a lot

    Votes: 13 5.9%
  • Draw

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Total voters
    221
  • Poll closed .

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Who gives a *? GWS are a fake plastic team that got gifted everything under the sun for * knows why anyway.....

They have already played in 6 prelims or something..

How many have stkilda played in? Probablky 6 in 100 years.

* GWS
I hate GWS but I'd rather be a plastic team than a pathetic bunch of brown paper bag flogging dicks who haven't achieved shit without blatant cheating in the AFL era.
 

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Why are commentators going on about the crowd being Collingwoods "19th man" still? They won by a point and Giants probably should have won. Clearly didn't have much impact on them.
 
In the past decade, the only close GF we've had is Collingwood + eagles (and maybe Sydney v Bulldogs until the final 10).

Please can we have a "not sh.t" grandfinal. They've been underwhelming for so long.

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Last year's was sublime what are you on about
 

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As much as GWS were their own worst enemy, the AFL can not be happy at all with the standard of umpiring in this game.

Firstly, the AFL must crack down on umpires who umpire for affirmation. Its not a professional look and the AFL must take a stand. The old attitude of umpires make mistakes is simply not good enough in a professional sport.

Secondly, why does the AFL persist with throwing the whistle away in the last quarter. Its says everything you need to know about just how amateur the AFL is. Fans would rather see free kicks paid then 3 minutes of ball ups. Collingwood players spent the last 2 minutes of the game literally diving on top of the ball to create ball ups. The very thing that's been holding the ball for the best part of over a decade. Thats incredibly disappointing. If they paid one we would have had an exciting last minute has GWS would have had a play. Instead the umpires broke the laws of the game because they were either frightened, incompetent, cheats or under instruction to not pay any free kicks.

This is why im an advocate for umpires being publicly criticised by players, coaches and the media. Umpires need to take ownership of their performances and be under scrutiny like everyone else in a professional sport. They are paid the big bucks for a reason.
 
Can’t see the knee in the first pic, but Greene clearly ducking with the bent knee in the second. Not a free at all and they have been consistent in not paying that.

Absolutely.

Somehow the movements that Ginnivan gets lambasted for, and that the AFL literally changed the interpretations over, are back to being frees according to some in here.
 
Pretty good game. GWS ran out of legs. Pies kept their composure.

I get the calls on the umpiring, it is very hard to understand how the GWS neck tackles were missed. Moore probably should have been paid a head high too. With 3 umpires just hard to understand how these things are not paid.
4 Umpires.
 

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Outplayed all season yet finished on top and made the granny. Bigfooty logic
Easy to finish top 4 with a Vic schedule champion. Only need to be the best Vic side in it and all the others are absolutely shite at the moment. Second best side in both your finals.
 
Absolutely.

Somehow the movements that Ginnivan gets lambasted for, and that the AFL literally changed the interpretations over, are back to being frees according to some in here.

The bias on here is not shocking. Same thing every week against teams / players they don’t like.
 

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